Talk:Jughandle

A jughandle in the UK may be called a "turning facility", but I'm not sure. [http://mrfloppies.fotopic.net/p10384509.html This sign] uses it for one where you turn right (across the center) into the jughandle, and then merge with the other direction. --SPUI (talk) 14:45, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I looked at the sign you mentioned and that is probably not a classic jughandle. It's a u-turn facility to allow traffic to reverse direction on the same road at the next intersection and go back to make a turn at an earlier intersection (a bit like a Median u-turn crossover). A jughandle is located at the intersection itself and designed to allow changes of route at that intersection. Scartboy (talk) 17:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

PS: Floppies! he-he. Some people are really twisted Scartboy (talk) 17:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

What exactly is the difference between a reverse jughandle and a "leaf" ramp? What is so "amusing" about the cloverleaf arrangement of reverse jughandles and how can one tell the difference? - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 21:42, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

The cloverleaf is meant to transfer between two road not at the same grade. The jughandle is meant to avoid a left turn by doing the equivalence of a right turn and a U-turn. It does mean going through the intersection (and traffic signals) twice, but it does eliminate the left-turn stage of the lights. Val42 05:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm having trouble figuring out just how this works; can someone whip up an animation of one please? --Golbez 08:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Does [http://my.hsonline.net/~rrosetta/entmoot/jughandle.gif] help? --SPUI (T - C) 03:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[http://www.tfhrc.gov/safety/pubs/04091/10.htm] --SPUI (T - C) 03:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In Newark, Delaware, see: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=newark,+de&ie=UTF8&om=1&z=17&ll=39.655927,-75.751086&spn=0.006261,0.013475&iwloc=addr albeit less conventionally than the example given here, because both feeder lanes ride alongside each other going in opposite directions, but the effect is the same. So Delaware should be added to the list of states that have them.--Injoy 05:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Dmz5 just removed what I felt to be good information: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jughandle&diff=112632194&oldid=112121739 changelog]. I do not see how any of this is original research: the statements are indeed the very facets of a jughandle. Much of that information is readily available through FHWA. The only point that I think needs a specific reference is the statement referring to safety benefits, but I believe the rest is OK. I would appreciate other input on this, particularly from those whom believe that this information is not fit for the article. --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 20:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

:Per a lack of discussion, I have returned the information (though somewhat modified). Again, this is not original research: these are the very tenants of jughandles and the information can be easily located within the existing external link for the FHWA; and/or is simply a matter of common sense. --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 23:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, can somebody who knows what these things are add to the caption so it says which jughandle is reverse. ("... shows a jughandle, bottom and a reverse jughandle, top." or the other way around.) Adding those two words would make the picture much more informative.

LittleBrother (talk) 18:47, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. Scartboy (talk) 18:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

from someone who grew up on united states highway route 46, it was the Lodi, NJ circle. In Cape Cod, they are called rotaries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.239.152 (talk) 10:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I've been travelling on roads in all parts of Minnesota for 20 years and have never seen such an intersection, so I've removed it from the list unless someone can provide citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walkersam (talk • contribs) 19:14, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

It looks ot me that there are enough diagrams and pictures now, ok? Egmason (talk) 01:32, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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A recent edit by {{reply to|TheGridExe}} removed most US examples of jughandles. While not incumbent on this editor to check all of the formerly-linked articles, it seems to me good practice to provide an easy link to the prior version so interested editors may more easily determine if those articles properly reference jughandles. IMHO.

The prior version is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jughandle&oldid=836737148 here]. --Chaswmsday (talk) 07:33, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

:Thanks for providing the permalink before my edit, {{u|Chaswmsday}}. It felt like people were adding onto the section with their local examples without any coherence to what the section was describing. I agree with your statement that it's good practice to check but also, maybe it's also an opportunity to see if the section can be updated to better display (rather than point to GPS coordinates) the examples if they are sufficient? I'll be glad to partially revert my edit in any case. – TheGridExe (talk) 12:42, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

::{{reply to|TheGridExe}} I don't think you necessarily need to revert; it's likely enough for interested editors to check the related articles. I would say however, that your added sentence "Jughandles are possible in other locations as they are a valid type of intersection control to consider for intersection design.", while most assuredly correct, isn't sourced or otherwise supported, and isn't US-specific, as implied. Personally I would either source it and move it to the lead, or remove it entirely. --Chaswmsday (talk) 08:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)