Talk:Sweets from the Indian subcontinent#Merger proposal

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Pakistani

Well the deletion of material wasn't good, but including mention of Pakistani sweets is probably a good thing. I know the title is Indian sweets so the answer is either broaden the subject or include a paragraph mentioning many Pakistani sweets are the same as north Indian ones and link to a separate article on them. I think there would have to be justification for an additional article as they are so similar, splitting the articles seems uneccessary and improper. - Taxman Talk 14:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

:We can have an article on Pakistani sweets. I don't think there'll be duplication with East and South Indian sweets. The duplicate areas (with North Indian sweets) can be merged into another article if needed. Jay 11:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Type Pakistani sweets in [WWW.Google.com] and find out for your self .

Cleanup

This article is written like you were talking about it to someone. Try reading the article on chocolate. Wikijjc 18:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

:Particularly the latest additions with [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_sweets&diff=209745439&oldid=209743442 this edit] are not in an encyclopedic and NPOV manner. I don't want to revert, but I fear we may have to if the material is not quickly improved to conform with NPOV. - Taxman Talk 18:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

This article desperately needs a revert.116135 (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on cleanup for this. Mostly it was lifted from [http://www.haldiramusa.com/History_Indian_Food.htm this Indian history page], but I took some of the claims it makes out because there is no author and no sources. Markleci (talk) 23:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Translations

If someone could add translations of the names in this article, it would really liven it up a little. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markleci (talkcontribs) 23:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Motichoor

I've moved the Motichoor section up to make it a sub-section of the Laddu section. I further propose that this content be moved from here into the main Laddu article.

This content also sounds rather POV. I don't have the cultural knowledge to be able to make the distinctions necessary--but if this is a truly notable variant of Laddu, perhaps that can be highlighted in the Laddu article and the text that reads like marketing copy could be removed. --Mathieu ottawa (talk) 02:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Kheer, and Payas or Kheer

There are currently two headings Kheer and Payas or Kheer that could probably be safely merged. I haven't done any research to see which is the more popular term.--Mathieu ottawa (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

; Kheer is made in north India and Payas/payasam is made in south India. Similar but different in preparation, taste and even look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2404:E800:E61E:452:5B9:8D31:953B:E4DD (talk) 18:48, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 19 July 2022

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: pages not moved to the proposed titles at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 07:10, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

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– Per WP:COMMONNAME. This has long been treated as the title in the article already. Middle river exports (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:01, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

:Reliable sources don't support this. For instance, the Macmillan dictionary defines mithai as "a word meaning sweets and sweet dishes, used in India and elsewhere."https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/mithai# According to this definition, mithai does not refer to sweets from a particular country or region. Many English-language books on Indian sweets don't mention the term mithai.{{cite book|title=Delicious Indian Sweets|url={{Google books|P8ESlrJf-oUC|page=5|plainurl=yes}}}}{{cite book|title=Indian Sweets|url={{Google books|NOPZDAAAQBAJ|page=1|plainurl=yes}}}} This book{{cite book|title=Best of Indian Sweets|url=https://www.google.com/books/edition/Best_Of_Indian_Sweets_Desserts/apZLFS75DoAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=indian+sweets&pg=PT4&printsec=frontcover}} mentions mithai in a narrow, limited context of certain types of sweets (barfi) and not its main description of "Indian sweets and desserts."

:The lead paragraphs of this article make many claims without citations to reliable sources and appear to be original research, per the multiple issues tag. This includes the claim that mithai and the article title are synonymous.

- Ram1751 (talk) 02:31, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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:{{ec}} Added move of associated dab. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:56, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

  • Oppose per MOS:COMMONALITY. The current title is considerably more recognizable than the proposed to most readers. In addition, the article should be using "sweets" rather than "mithai"; if you are glossing a foreign word to a word used in the relevant ENGVAR (like is done in this article with {{tq|mithas (sweet)}}), then you should just use the gloss. BilledMammal (talk) 03:29, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
  • :Agree. Ram1751 (talk) 02:06, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose Because the same term "Mithai" means a specific type of sweet in Bengali language. Sweets in Indian subcontinent is called "Mishti" in the language. The word mithai was never universal for indian originated sweets in the continent itself. Mehedi Abedin 07:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Oppose, Mithai isn't English. --Gilgul Kaful (talk) 07:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.