Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Shahbaz

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Not notable, at least not yet. Lots of PR, & piuffery and promotionalism "keeping up with the progress he is making, " but that doesn't count. Highest achievement is runner-up om an award--the winner might be notable. DGG ( talk ) 15:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

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I feel that the article should remain up on the site. Wikipedia personalities do not have to be increasingly famous but could be leaders in their fields as well. A few edits would make this article much more cohesive and apt. Rest, I strongly believe this article should NOT be deleted. This young man has accomplished substantially and is well recognised in related circles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.178.147.220 (talk) 17:58, 15 August 2015 (UTC) — 180.178.147.220 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Keep Surprised that this page is being considered for deletion. I vote against deletion. This young man has tangible achievement record and should definitely stay on wikipedia as his achievements are registered more and more. And I don't think it has a lot of PR/Promotionalism. It only alludes at what is true. Minor edits could be made to enhance the overall quality JahanAlam'' — JahanAlam (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Keep Valid article with credibility. The article features a public figure with key international involvements in development. Perhaps the user who suggested deletion is looking at the whole criteria too narrowly. Not everyone has to be Bill Gates to reach the status for a wikipedia page. As for promotionalism, small edits could be made to make the article more opinion-neutral. Otherwise, surely this article should remain on site. The award, although the person got runner-up, was a huge award since he was a runner-up for an award that had nominees from ALL OVER ASIA AND PACIFIC. Please refer to the context prior to making sweeping, almost arrogant statements. --RizwanUllah (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2015 (UTC)RizwanUllah — RizwanUllah (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. • User:RizwanUllah is the creator of this article. Disclosure added per WP:AFDFORMAT.

Keep keep the article on the website. I don't see why extreme popularity is being used as a yardstick for keeping personalities on Wikipedia. The fact that this person has achieved extraordinarily and is rewarded is enough evidence to keep him on the wikipedia site. As for User:DGG I find it kind of offensive that he is making insensitive remarks about loads of different persons around wikipedia. Anyways, Ali Shahbaz should be kept on wikipedia. --Junaid AZ. (talk) 18:38, 16 August 2015 (UTC) Junaid AZ. — Junaid AZ. (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Delete for now and I would see the benefit of drafting and userfying as this would be better anew and a good case of WP:TNT. My searches found nothing outstandingly good. SwisterTwister talk 05:49, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Keep for sure! Outstanding is a very subjective term! As far as I am concerned, the subject has a very particular niche in which he is working and has done outstanding accomplishments! He is the first youth ambassador of Pakistan and has continued climbing the ladder in diplomatic circles. I can't understand how this is not outstanding especially when you started at the age of 14! Definitely keep the article --180.178.156.88 (talk) 08:05, 17 August 2015 (UTC) shahnamey — 180.178.156.88 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Keep meets notability.

::*The Express Times with the International New York Times. [http://tribune.com.pk/story/389367/global-environment-conference-youth-to-represent-pakistan-at-rio20/]

::* The Dawn ref appears to RS, reprinted from InPaperMagazinehttp://www.dawn.com/news/729041/earthly-matters-turning-rio20-into-reality

::* Looks like the official YouTube channel for the Sustainable Development Policy Institute.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFkEAOa6olI]

::* the OnePakistan source has no date nor author, so iffy on RS http://pakistan.onepakistan.com.pk/news/city/islamabad/96341-ali-shahbaz-to-highlight-softpositive-image-of-pakistan-during-rio20-moot-abid-suleri.html

::I've cleaned up the sourcing a bit to clarify that they are RS. Full Disclosure: I have no interest in this person/topic/article. Cheers --009o9 (talk) 15:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Keep well enough notability according to wikipedia standards. Meets basic requirements of credibility. Should actually give a chance for keeping on site because the subject's current progress is indicative of his growth and hence additions to this page. Some vital citations as well. With a few edits for improvement, I vote for keeping the article--David Sub (talk) 15:40, 19 August 2015 (UTC) David Sub — David Sub (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

:* Please note that it is not permissible to edit comments signed by other accounts as was done with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ali_Shahbaz&diff=next&oldid=676765477 this edit]. It is worth reading the Wikipedia policy at :WP:SOCK too. AllyD (talk) 19:20, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I just edited font of the former comments to bullet them correctly and make the initial word bold for easier read by the moderator(s)--David Sub (talk) 19:45, 19 August 2015 (UTC) David Sub

Keep matches requirements for notability. Sources/references credible for now. Might need to brush up external links. Otherwise, I foresee that the subject's profile shall expand exponentially with time and thus, it makes sense to have the page active. Note measures of popularity are unfair comparisons when contrasting large scale professionals with young start-up youth activists. Not everyone has to have Nobel Prizes in their baskets to qualify for "notability". --Neureter (talk) 07:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC) Neureter — Neureter (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Delete another case of attention-seeking, not attention-getting; youtube and blogspots, and the occasional oho-aha! mention for occupying a less than even ceremonial office, still fails WP:GNG and WP:PROMO. Kraxler (talk) 17:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete Surely a high-achieving youth, but nowhere near notable enough for an article here. His main claim to fame is that he was a delegate to Rio+20, but so were 10,000 other people.[http://tribune.com.pk/story/389367/global-environment-conference-youth-to-represent-pakistan-at-rio20/] More than half of the references in the article are to his own blog. Other claims, such as "Honorable Mention for the Readers Digest Asian of the Year Award", are not sufficient for notability. We may hear of this young man someday, but not yet. BTW I'm sure the closing administrator will take note only of the arguments here that are based in policy, and will recognize that all but one of the "keep" !votes here are from an obvious sockfarm. --MelanieN (talk) 22:44, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
• Delete searches turned up nothing which would meet the criteria of notability. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:06, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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