Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 September 28#Category:Phalia

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:International Campaign to Save the Monuments of Nubia to :Category:Relocated monuments of Nubia :Category:Relocated monuments of Lower Nubia

:Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, the articles are not about the campaign but about the monuments. Similar to parent :Category:Relocated ancient Egyptian monuments. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

::If we are going to move to a vaguer name it should be "Lower Nubia" not just Nubia, to avoid a significant widening of the scope. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:00, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

::* Fair enough. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:56, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Nubian deities to :Category:Nubia

:* Propose merging :Category:Nubian mythology to :Category:Nubia

:Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories which are already directly interlinked. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge both while keeping the sub-cats :Category:Nubian goddesses and :Category:Nubian gods FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:44, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge both due to not having anything except the subcats. Keep the subcats, of course. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:56, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|2nd millennium BC in Bolivia}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|2nd-millennium BC establishments in Bolivia}}

:* Propose merging :Category:15th-century BC establishments in Bolivia to :Category:15th-century BC establishments

:Nominator's rationale: Bolivia, the state, did not exist in the 15th century BC. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete/merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:29, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete and merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:57, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|16th century BC in Guatemala}}

:* Propose deleting {{lc|2nd millennium BC in Guatemala}}

:* Propose merging :Category:2nd-millennium BC establishments in Guatemala to :Category:2nd-millennium BC establishments in the Maya civilization

:* Propose merging :Category:16th-century BC establishments in Guatemala to :Category:16th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization

:Nominator's rationale: Redundant to :Category:16th-century BC establishments in the Maya civilization, etc. Guatemala, the country, did not exist in the 16th century BC. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete/merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting :Category:Women humanitarians (per discussion below)

:Nominator's rationale: Being a woman does not have a direct relationship with being a humanitarian. Unlike holding office or certain kinds of employment, women have not been systematically excluded from humanitarianism. User:Namiba 15:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Just delete, articles are already in the tree of :Category:Humanitarians by nationality and they are not about activists per se. For example Layal Aboud is "involved in philanthropic activities and has described herself as an abnormal generous person", that is not an activist-like. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

::Deletion also works for me.--User:Namiba 20:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. {{tq|Smallcat is no reason to delete a category.}} is false, it is a valid deletion rationale. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:38, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging

::* :Category:1380s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1380s establishments in France and :Category:14th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1400s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1400s establishments in France and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1420s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1420s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1430s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1430s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1440s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1440s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1450s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1450s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1470s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1470s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

::* :Category:1480s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands to :Category:1480s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:15th-century establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands by decade}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, WP:OCYEAR. Not enough establishments by decade. Upmerge to Holy Roman Empire and century-level categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Normally the (dis)establishments categories mirror the year/decade/century categories, it would be a novelty to disentangle them. If merged, :Category:1380s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands should not be merged to :Category:1380s establishments in the Holy Roman Empire but to :Category:1380s establishments in France, since the larger part of Flanders was under French jurisdiction. The same applies to :Category:1400s establishments in the Burgundian Netherlands. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:52, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

:* Good catch, adjusted above for 1380s and 1400s. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:22, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Smallcat is no reason to delete a category. There is always scope for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 01:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge all as currently proposed. It is true there is scope for expansion but, for an entity like the Burgundian Netherlands, I think it is very limited and so the target categories seem the most practical option. PearlyGigs (talk) 05:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:1125 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1120s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1125 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1138 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1130s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1138 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1152 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1150s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1152 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1198 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1190s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1198 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1208 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1200s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1208 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1314 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1310s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1314 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1346 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1340s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1346 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1376 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1370s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1376 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1400 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1400s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1400 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1410 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1410s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1410 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1411 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1410s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1411 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1438 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1430s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1438 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1440 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1440s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1440 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1448 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1440s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1448 in Europe

:* Propose merging :Category:1486 in the Holy Roman Empire to :Category:1480s in the Holy Roman Empire and :Category:1486 in Europe

:Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, WP:OCYEAR. All nominated categories have just 1-3 articles. Merge to decade level and year in Europe as unlikely to grow reasonably soon. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:43, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:02, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose Smallcat is no reason to delete a category. There is always scope for expansion. Dimadick (talk) 01:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge all as proposed. It is true that there is nearly always scope for expansion but I'm inclined to think it will be very limited in cases like these. Ongoing research is unlikely to produce a significant number of additional events, besides which the target categories are entirely suitable. We have a specific year for Europe as a whole, which is fine, and I think a by decade approach is best for the medieval HRE. PearlyGigs (talk) 05:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Kurdish DJs}}

:Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEGRS. The lone article is for Kurd Maverick, a German DJ seemingly of Kurdish origin. I'm not sure how Kurdish has developed into a significant style or genre of hip hop, and it does not seem that Kurd Maverick's music is especially Kurdish in any way. Place Clichy (talk) 13:26, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:03, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Left-wing activism by country to :Category:Left-wing activism

:Nominator's rationale: only one child category Mason (talk) 12:33, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Merge due to lack of definition. While there has been "left-wing activism" in (probably) all countries, it is a question of definition by country and that is very difficult to pin down because what may seem left-wing in some countries may be considered liberal in another. The parent/target category is the safer option because, as the concept is vague, we should avoid national differences in its interpretation. PearlyGigs (talk) 05:55, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose renaming :Category:Animal rights activism by country to :Category:Animal rights activists by nationality

:Nominator's rationale: Everyone child category is a category for animal rights activists by nationality. category should also be reparented from :Category:Activism by country to :Category:Activists by nationality Mason (talk) 12:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:07, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Rename per nom. That seems very reasonable to me. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: merge to :Category:Animal welfare and rights in Egypt. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:07, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose merging :Category:Animal welfare and rights in Egypt to :Category:Animal welfare in Egypt

:Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason (talk) 05:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Reverse merge, all other country categories have the format of "Animal welfare and rights". Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• :Support. Good catch! Mason (talk) 12:25, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Reverse merge per Marcocapelle, and possibly redirect. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Reverse merge per Marcocapelle. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:38, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: listify. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Uses of animals in warfare}}

:Nominator's rationale: Apparently intended for unconventional uses of animals, otherwise many, many battles would qualify (e.g. cavalry, war elephants), but that would best be handled by a list or even an article w/ a list IMO. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:32, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

::Support. I think this sounds like a good candidate for a list.Mason (talk) 03:12, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NONDEF, none of these articles is primarily about the use of animals. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per the above, support creation of a list for some of the odder uses. Edward-Woodrow • talk 12:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per NONDEF. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:39, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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:The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

:* Propose deleting {{lc|Uses of oxen in warfare}}

:Nominator's rationale: Both articles are also in the parent category, which only has one other article. Seems too early to split into sub-categories. Gonnym (talk) 01:43, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:NONDEF, neither of these articles is primarily about the use of oxen, one is about a general, the other about a battle. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
• Delete per NONDEF. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:40, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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