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Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Peter Vogel

=[[User:Peter Vogel]]=

{{sspa}}

;Suspected sockpuppeteer

{{user5|1=Peter Vogel}}

;Suspected sockpuppets

{{user5|1=Lucky Mitch}}

{{user5|Ken shoryuken}}

{{user5|1=BSDB}}

{{user5|TimySmidge}}

{{user5|1=65.7.239.237}}

{{user5|1=4.184.255.145}}

{{user5|1=4.185.231.7}}

{{user5|1=4.184.63.199}}

{{user5|1=222.106.235.128}}

;Report submission by

Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

;Evidence

Though Peter Vogel may not be the one pulling the strings, all of these users continuously revert to the same WP:PLOT and WP:CRUFT revision of plot-by-plot paragraphs and abilities that was agreed to be removed on the main Dragon Ball character pages per consensus on WP:WPDB. Despite being warned several times, all of them do not respond to the warnings and keep reverting to the WP:PLOT and WP:CRUFT revisions without explaining so and/or leave personal attacks in edit summaries while reverting. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)



The following is a list of suspects and the warning diffs that follow. Since there are a huge number of edits most have done in almost rapid timing, some diffs will demonstrate the many times the user was warned about the same cruft reversions to each Dragon Ball-related page:

  • Peter Vogel - a "non-responsive cruft keeper", see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Peter_Vogel&diff=157214951&oldid=148587327 this warning to Peter Vogel], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=157485178&oldid=157481606 a revert against Peter Vogel], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Peter_Vogel&diff=157487163&oldid=157446365 another warning to Peter Vogel], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=157708439&oldid=157689611 another revert against Peter Vogel], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Peter_Vogel&diff=next&oldid=157487163 an edit summary request to him], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Peter_Vogel&diff=next&oldid=157574225 another warning to Peter Vogel]. Regardless of the many reverts/warnings given, he doesn't respond to any of them and keeps re-adding the same WP:PLOT and WP:FANCRUFT elements that have been removed from time to time, see for example his talk page warnings and his recent contributions on the Goku history page


  • Lucky Mitch - the first and only user to bring up the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Dragon_Ball&diff=prev&oldid=157065648 dissaproval of cutting "junk" on WP:WPDB]; while not being involved in these "cruft conpriracies", this user is the only one who admits the dissaproval, nonetheless


  • Ken shoryuken - another "cruft keeper", please take a look at some of this user's recent re-additions of blatant cruft and plot information to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157883251 Son Goku (Dragon Ball) here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piccolo_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157885023 Piccolo (Dragon Ball) here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vegeta&diff=prev&oldid=159431952 Vegeta here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Gohan&diff=prev&oldid=159433304 Son Gohan here], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=162289208 again at Son Goku (Dragon Ball) here]. I am suspecting that 4.185.231.7 (or another related ip) created this account — Ken shoryuken recently called me a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sesshomaru&diff=162292729&oldid=156115092 'DBZROCKS' sockpuppet]; he never associated himself with good faith editor DBZROCKS, leading me to think that 4.185.231.7 is still holding a grudge against him (see here) and created an attack account


  • BSDB - this newer account just happens to revert me after I reverted & warned Peter Vogel on the Goku history page, and happens to know of WP:UNDO at such an early wiki-start and uses it on me without explaining, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157560096 see here]. Another "cruft keeper", this user re-adds the same abilities list on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goku_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=157809596&oldid=157806868 the Goku page] that was agreed to be removed by WP:WPDB


  • TimySmidge - another "cruft keeper", see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trunks_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157453235 first cruft revision (against Peter Vogel)], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Future_Trunks&diff=prev&oldid=157454150 second cruft revision (against DBZROCKS)], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Future_Trunks&diff=next&oldid=157454273 third cruft revision (against Poetic Decay)], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=No._17&diff=prev&oldid=157462836 fourth cruft revision (against Peter Vogel)]


  • 65.7.239.237 - another "cruft keeper", this anon does exactly like what others above are doing, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piccolo_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157917131 this re-addition of cruft], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Son_Goten&diff=prev&oldid=157918644 this one], and see this anon's talk page for warnings recieved regarding WP:CRUFT


  • 4.184.255.145, 4.185.231.7, and 4.184.63.199 are obviously the same person. Please skim through their contributions respectively and notice the same immature personal attacks, as well the clear obsession with re-adding the same WP:PLOT and WP:FANCRUFT elements (editor mainly wars on the Future Trunks article)


  • 222.106.235.128 - another "cruft keeper", see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piccolo_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157150502 this revert], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piccolo_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157328130 this revert], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Piccolo_%28Dragon_Ball%29&diff=prev&oldid=157568015 this revert]


;Comments

I originally thought about filing a report on WP:CHECKUSER but if indeed these disruptive edits are so identical and are obviously all done by the same person utilising different usernames a different computer/ip range then what I've gathered up should be all that is needed. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

:BSDB appears to be a sockpuppet/single purpuse account created for the sole reason of reverting the changes in this pages, TimySmidge has already been blocked a abusive sockpuppet. Ken shoryuken has the exact edit pattern present that BSDB presented, I'm not sure about Lucky Mitch, his account has edited in a larger number of topics instead of being used as a SPA as was the case with the others. The three IP addresses that start at 4.185. and 4.184. are probably the same person under a dynamic IP, the other two are being used to edit war over the same thing as the registered account so chances are they belong to the same individual. - Caribbean~H.Q. 16:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

::Ken shoryuken continues to remove the sock tag from his userpage, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ken_shoryuken&diff=prev&oldid=162636365], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ken_shoryuken&diff=162287540&oldid=159483402], without providing counter-evidence (other than two incivil claims on my talk page, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sesshomaru&diff=162286136&oldid=161941069], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sesshomaru&diff=162636173&oldid=162406591]) that he is not a sock editor. I'm not going to enforce him to keep the template on his page so I'll let him have his way for now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 10:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Looking into this, I can disqualify the the 2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx address, it edits at completely different times of day than any of the other accounts or addresses. RyanGerbil10(C-Town) 23:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

;Conclusions

I'm closing this. The following are concluded:

  • Peter Vogel has been blocked indefinitely. (note that I did not block him)
  • Lucky Mitch is not likely a sockpuppet, Mitch's interests are too different for this to be likely.
  • BSDB was blocked briefly some time ago and has not edited since; it does not appear he/she will return.
  • TimySmidge has been indefinitely blocked. (again note that I did not do this)
  • The first four IP addresses listed has not edited recently, it is plausible that they are sockpuppets but there is not enough evidence.
  • The last IP address listed is not a socpuppet, it's editing patterns indicate that it is several timezones distant from the other accounts and addresses listed here.
  • :Closing admin, RyanGerbil10(C-Town) 23:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

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