:Talk:Clarice Phelps

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|dyk1date=22 March 2020|dyk1entry=... that nuclear scientist Clarice Phelps has been recognized as the first African-American woman to be involved with the discovery of a chemical element?|dyk1nom=Template:Did you know nominations/Clarice Phelps

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| subject = article

| author = Maryam Zaringhalam, Jess Wade

| title = It matters who we champion in science

| org = Washington Post

| url = https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/it-matters-who-we-champion-in-science/2019/04/12/50a1781a-5d3d-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c02bc1c1f816

| date = 12 April 2019

| accessdate = 29 April 2019

| quote = Take Clarice Phelps, the first African American woman to be part of team that discovered a superheavy element. Phelps purified the berkelium-249 that was used in the discovery and identification of Tennessine (element 117), named after the location of the lab where she works. But Phelps was not named in the official announcement and was not profiled by international newspapers. Without these crucial pieces of recognition, her biography was quickly deemed not appropriate for Wikipedia.

| author2 = Samira Sadeque

| title2 = Wikipedia just won’t let this Black female scientist’s page stay

| org2 = The Daily Dot

| url2 = https://www.dailydot.com/irl/wikipedia-clarice-phelps/

| date2 = April 29, 2019

| quote2 = The drive to get Phelps’ name on Wikipedia was initiated by a Jess Wade, a postdoctoral researcher in physics in the U.K., who has a mission to make women scientists visible on the internet—starting with their Wikipedia pages, which many people rely on for information.

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| accessdate2 = May 8, 2019

| author3 = Sam Lemonick

| title3 = Kit Chapman tells stories of the superheavy elements

| org3 = Chemical & Engineering News

| url3 = https://cen.acs.org/physical-chemistry/periodic-table/IYPT-Kit-Chapman-tells-stories-superheavy/97/i23

| date3 = June 9, 2019

| quote3 = Wade wrote a short entry about Phelps, but Wikipedia later deleted it after critics argued Phelps was not notable enough to warrant a page. Chapman thinks his tweet about Phelps drew trolls’ attention to the entry, which led to a campaign to delete the page.

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| accessdate3 = June 19, 2019

| subject4 = article

| author4 = Katrina Krämer

| title4 = Female scientists’ pages keep disappearing from Wikipedia – what’s going on?

| org4 = Chemistry World

| url4 = https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/female-scientists-pages-keep-disappearing-from-wikipedia--whats-going-on/3010664.article

| date4 = 3 July 2019

| accessdate4 = 5 July 2019

| quote4 = Jessica Wade, a physical chemist at Imperial College London, UK, who created both Phelps’ and Tuttle’s page, says out of the 600 articles she has written so far about female, black, minority ethnic or LGBTQ+ scientists, six have been deleted as they weren’t deemed notable. But almost every single one is being scrutinised – particularly those on ethnic minority women, Wade says.

| subject5 = article

| author5 = Cara Curtis

| title5 = Wikipedia bios for women scientists are more likely to be flagged for removal

| org5 = The Next Web

| url5 = https://thenextweb.com/tech/2019/07/31/wikipedia-bios-for-women-scientists-are-more-likely-to-be-flagged-for-removal/

| date5 = 31 July 2019

| accessdate5 = 1 August 2019

| quote5 = A few months ago, Sarah Tuttle, an astrophysicist, tweeted how her Wikipedia page was flagged for deletion. This came after the online encyclopedia platform had removed Clarice Phelps’, an African-American nuclear scientist, bio three times during Black History Month in February.

| subject6 = interview

| author6 = Andrea Catherwood

| title6 = Women in Stem v Wikipedia

| org6 = BBC Woman's Hour

| url6 = https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000c0b8

| date6 = 5 December 2019

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| quote6 = Who decides what appears on Wikipedia?

| subject7 = article

| author7 = Phoebe Southworth

| title7 = Physicist embroiled in sexism row with Wikipedia after female scientists she wrote profiles for 'not notable enough'

| org7 = The Daily Telegraph

| url7 = https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/07/physicist-embroiled-sexism-row-wikipedia-female-scientists-wrote/

| date7 = 7 December 2019

| accessdate7 = 7 December 2019

| quote7 = I've written about people from all kinds of different backgrounds from across the world, and all different aspects of science, said Dr Wade. They do the most incredible research in difficult circumstances. One of the most memorable was a phenomenal woman chemist called Clarice Phelps.

| subject8 = article

| author8 = Chantalle Edmunds

| title8 = Physicist accuses 'white men in North America' Wikipedia editors of sexism for flagging her profiles of prominent female scientists as 'not notable enough'

| org8 = Daily Mail

| url8 = https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7769415/Physicist-accuses-white-men-North-America-Wikipedia-editors-sexism.html

| date8 = 8 December 2019

| accessdate8 = 8 December 2019

| quote8 = 'One of the most memorable was a phenomenal woman chemist called Clarice Phelps,' Wade told Woman's Hour.

| subject9 = article

| author9 = Claire Jarvis

| title9 = What a Deleted Profile Tells Us About Wikipedia’s Diversity Problem

| org9 = Undark Magazine

| url9 = https://undark.org/2019/04/25/wikipedia-diversity-problem/

| date9 = 25 April 2019

| accessdate9 = 11 December 2019

| quote9 = Clarice Phelps may have been the first black woman to help discover an element. For Wikipedia, that wasn’t enough.

| author10 = Jocelyn Evans

| title10 = Physicist writes 900 Wikipedia entries to boost diversity in science

| org10 = itv.com

| url10 = https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-11/physicist-writes-900-wikipedia-entries-to-boost-diversity-in-science/

| date10 = February 11, 2020

| quote10 = Asked about some of the highlights from her 900 Wikipedia entries so far, Dr Wade reeled off in an instant a list of female scientists and scientists of colour. One entry - from the start of her project - is Gladys West, an African American mathematician known for her work on mathematical modelling of the shape of the Earth. Another was Katie Bouman, the woman behind the first black hole image. Dr Wade described Clarice Phelps, the first African-American woman to be involved with the discovery of a chemical element, as a "rockstar".

| accessdate10 = February 17, 2020

| author11 = Timothy Harper

| title11 = This 33-year-old made more than 1,000 Wikipedia bios for unknown female scientists

| org11 = today.com

| url11 = https://www.today.com/parents/jessica-wade-wikipedia-female-scientists-rcna51628

| date11 = October 11, 2022

| quote11 = One example was Clarice Phelps. Wade heard about the young African-American nuclear chemist, and wrote a Wikipedia bio describing her work on a team that discovered a new periodic-table element at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. The Phelps entry bounced on and off Wikipedia as critics deleted it and Wade defended it. In the end, Wade won, and Phelps’ entry is back on Wikipedia for good.

| accessdate11 = October 12, 2022

| author12 = Sidney Page

| title12 = She’s made 1,750 Wikipedia bios for women scientists who haven’t gotten their due

| org12 = The Washington Post

| url12 = https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/10/17/jess-wade-scientist-wikiepdia-women/

| date12 = October 17, 2022

| quote12 = About 15 biographies Wade has written have been deleted, including one on Clarice Phelps, a nuclear chemist who is recognized as the first Black woman to be involved with the discovery of a chemical element.

| accessdate12 = October 17, 2022

| author13 = Arman Khan

| title13 = I’ve Made More Than 1,700 Wikipedia Entries on Women Scientists and I’m Not Yet Done

| org13 = Vice (magazine)

| url13 = https://www.vice.com/en/article/z34k9e/wikipedia-pages-women-scientists-jessica-wade-stem

| date13 = November 18, 2022

| quote13 = The page on Phelps, written by Wade, was initially taken down because there weren’t enough citations on Phelps’ tennessine contribution. This was largely because not enough publications had written about Phelps at the time.

| accessdate13 = November 18, 2022

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'Discovery'

I'm not sure how comfortable I am with describing the process in which atoms of tennessine were synthesized as "discovery". Yes, media sources use that term, but how accurate is it? DS (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

:It isn't just the media. The experimental creation of synthetic elements has been referred to as "discovery" in the scientific literature for decades. Here are some examples from [https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1351/pac199365081757/html 1993], [https://escholarship.org/uc/item/05x8w9h7 1987], and [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/amb.1980.27.2.77 1980]. --RL0919 (talk) 23:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

::Mmm... I suppose it's valid to say that, after the berkelium and calcium nuclei were bashed together, a few tennessine atoms were discovered among what emerged. DS (talk) 18:31, 17 September 2024 (UTC)