:Talk:Direct Action Day

{{U|Evox777}} added the following to the article in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Action_Day&diff=725685871&oldid=700000237 this edit]:

"In fact nothing was planned for Direct Action Day except large-scale meetings all over the country and it was while the Muslims of Calcutta were attending such a meeting that the riot broke out, NOT IN the area of the meeting, but in the areas of the unprotected homes of these people. And the carnage that took place during these first few hours, where women and children fell as completely helpless and defenseless victims was greater than the subsequent retaliatory attacks by the Muslims on the predominantly Hindu areas."{{Cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=w8qJAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA580|title=Sources of Indian Tradition: Modern India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh|editor-last1=McDermott|editor-first1=Rachel Fell|publisher=|year=|isbn=|location=|pages=580}}

I removed it from the article because the source is a book edited by McDermott, who is not a historian, and should not be cited for points of historical fact. Worse, the page from which the text is taken is condensed, without analysis, from From Purdah to Parliament, an autobiography by Shaista Ikramullah (who is not a historian either, nor a journalist). Ikramullah cites no sources for her assertions, simply saying "As far as I can judge the matter dispassionately I feel that this is not true" and then launching into her perceptions above. This has no place in a Wikipedia article about history. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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In re-inserting the above text in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Action_Day&type=revision&diff=727457867&oldid=727255434 this edit], {{U|Evox777}} also undid unrelated clarifications to what Chatterji wrote. Based on Evox777's edit summary, their comment above, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Worldbruce&diff=727456163&oldid=727452821 this comment] left on my talk page, I assume that their reversion of the Chatterji clarifications was unintended. But if they or anyone else thinks that Chatterji blamed only the Muslim League for the riots, I would be happy to discuss it here. --Worldbruce (talk) 06:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

User:AhmedQureshi has selectively removed content about Muslims being targeted on dubious reasons. I also have other issues but will discuss them later. There was a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Action_Day&diff=795813157&oldid=795665376 revert by an IP address] before Qureshi, I don't know if it's him since Qureshi created the account after. First he says [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Action_Day&diff=795831835&oldid=795819360 there is no reliable source]. That too when the article itself says with reliable sources there were killings of not only Hindus, but Muslims as well. I have quoted the article with references later on.

Then when I add several sources he frivolously [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Action_Day&diff=795944794&oldid=795861041 them as non-reliable]. Also he cites a reason that there a category "Persecution of Bengali Hindus". However, Direct Action Day#Background there is also a "Violence against Muslims in India" category. He dismissed all the sources I cited as "non-reliable", though I doubt he himself knows completely about WP:RELIABLE. One of the [https://books.google.co.in/books?id=REcrDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA441 source] I added is well-known publishers Taylor & Francis who also publishes books as academic journals, and it is reputed. One of the known author Tanika Sarkar. Another author Sekhar Bandyopadhyay is also a known scholar [https://www.victoria.ac.nz/hppi/about/staff/sekhar-bandyopadhyay]. The other two sources, Mahatma Gandhi: A Selected Biography page 26, Report to Lord Pethick-Lawrence are already in source which I also cite below.

Also here's some of the quotes from the articles contents woth sources that Muslims were targeted as well, it was violence between Hindus and Muslims both and not just on Hindus.

Direct Action Day (16 August 1946), also known as the Great Calcutta Killings, was a day of widespread riot and manslaughter between Hindus and Muslims in the city of Calcutta (now known as Kolkata) in the Bengal province of British India.{{cite book|last=Burrows|first=Frederick|authorlink=Frederick Burrows|title=Report to Viceroy Lord Wavell|publisher=The British Library IOR: L/P&J/8/655 f.f. 95, 96–107|year=1946}}

Some authors have claimed that most of the victims were Muslims.{{cite book |title=Mahatma Gandhi: A Selected Bibliography |last=Carter |first=April |year=1995 |publisher=Greenwood Publishing Group |location=Westport, CT|isbn=031328296X |page=26}}

Hindus and Sikhs were just as fierce as the Muslims in the beginning. Parties of one community would lie in wait, and as soon as they caught one of the other community, they would cut him to pieces.{{cite book

|last=Wavell

|first=Archibald P.

|authorlink=Archibald Wavell, 1st Earl Wavell

|title=Report to Lord Pethick-Lawrence

|publisher=British Library Archives: IOR

|year=1946}}

AhmedQureshi is engaging in disruptive behavior by selectively removing text from the infobox which is sourced. I aks him to stop this. 117.215.225.128 (talk) 18:18, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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I agree, it's unnecessary to present only Hindus as the target. Therefore I changed it to civil conflict. 103.40.196.34 (talk) 14:17, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

I see three sentences in the lead that say:

{{quotebox|align=left|text=The 1946 Cabinet Mission to India for planning of the transfer of power from the British Raj to the Indian leadership proposed an initial plan of composition of the new Dominion of India and its government. However, soon an alternative plan to divide the British Raj into a Hindu-majority India and a Muslim-majority Pakistan was proposed by the Muslim League. The Congress rejected the alternative proposal outright.}}

An IP removed the last of these sentences, and suddenly our attention to this problematic content. All this is completely wrong. There is nothing of this kind in any source. I see that fragments of the second sentence were [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Direct_Action_Day&diff=prev&oldid=211821070 added] by User:Dwaipayanc way back in 2008 under a citation, making it appear as a sourced statement. Please don't do this. It destroys WP:Text-source integrity, and all kinds of junk passes for sourced content. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

I know nothing about this event, but phrases like "a hardline Muslim hooligan" suggest that I am not likely to find many answers here Gwaka Lumpa (talk) 16:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Crimes against humanity is a specific legal concept. In order to be included in the category, the event (s) must have been prosecuted as a crime against humanity, or at a bare minimum be described as such by most reliable sources. Most of the articles that were formerly in this category did not mention crimes against humanity at all, and the inclusion of the category was purely original research. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)