:Talk:Pir Muhammad (son of Jahangir)

I'm renaming this page from Pir Muhammad bin Jahangir Mirza to Pir Muhammad ibn Jahangir. Mirza doesn't belong since it's really a title. As for bin versus ibn, the most common form is the ambiguous abbreviation [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22pir+muhammad+ibn+jahangir%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1&gws_rd=ssl#q=%22pir+muhammad+b.+jahangir%22&tbm=bks&start=0 b.] When it is spelled out, both [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22pir+muhammad+ibn+jahangir%22&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1&gws_rd=ssl ibn] and [http://books.google.com/books?id=2vhbDSXbbksC&pg=PA33&dq=jahangir+bin+timur&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gb1NVK2mF9bCsAT90YHgDQ&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=jahangir%20bin%20timur&f=false bin] are used, with "ibn" being slightly more common. In the end, the distinction is a fine point of Arabic orthography who application here isn't clear to me so I'm going to go with "ibn".—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 03:44, 27 October 2014 (UTC)