:Talk:Soraya Tarzi

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some guidelines on this article

See Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom for some guidelines. For one, her article, does not have weasel words and POVs like "Her Majesty Queen", etc. I am removing these weasel words and POVs. -- Behnam (talk) 01:48, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

:I added some need citation tags and will hunt for the original verifiable sources for the biography but it looks to be a needle in a hay stack. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:22, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

::I removed the need citation tags and found cites but I am worried about POV and circular citations. Geraldshields11 (talk) 01:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

:::The History of Afghanistan{{cite book|last=Runion|first=Meredith|title=The History of Afghanistan|year=October 30, 2007|publisher=Greenwood Publishing Group|location=139|isbn=9780313337987|pages=155}} By Meredith L. Runion and A History of Women in Afghanistan: Lessons Learnt for the Future or Yesterdays and Tomorrow: Women in Afghanistan{{cite journal|last=Ahmed-Ghosh|first=Huma|title=A History of Women in Afghanistan: Lessons Learnt for the Future or Yesterdays and Tomorrow: Women in Afghanistan|journal=Journal of International Womens Studies|year=2003|month=May|volume=4|issue=3|pages=14|url=http://www.bridgew.us/SoAS/jiws/May03/Afghanistan.pdf|accessdate=7/6/2012}} By Dr. Huma Ahmed-Ghosh seem to be non-circular cites.

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Geraldshields11 (talk) 03:33, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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Dear Dougweller, Please see the above where I discuss my concerns about the cites and POV. Also, the critic's newspaper article. Thanks. Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:51, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

:::::Sorry, I'm not clear here. Specifically what do you see as pov (ignore other articles please). And what newspaper article? Dougweller (talk) 18:05, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

:::::: Please see WP:RSN#Soraya Tarzi for extended discussion and the cite to the newspaper article by the critic. As for POV, one of the cite sources may be related to the Queen but the only source for the pictures. Thanks. Geraldshields11 (talk) 19:10, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

:::::::::Thanks for working with me on making a great article with good cites. Geraldshields11 (talk) 19:35, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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Too many references

The article looks a bit of a mess now. There are times when more than one source is needed, but I'm not sure that any of those circumstances apply here, and certainly not for quotations. Dougweller (talk) 08:22, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Dear Dougweller, Please see the above talk page section for Soraya Tarzi where I discuss my concerns about the cites and POV. Also, the critic's newspaper article. Thanks. Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:50, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

:Please see WP:RSN#Soraya Tarzi for extended discussion and the cite to the newspaper article by the critic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geraldshields11 (talk • contribs) 19:12, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks for working with me on making a great article with good cites. Geraldshields11 (talk) 18:14, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Good Article Nomnation

I am thinking about nominating this artice as a good article. Does anyone have any suggestions? Please let us discuss the idea. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

POV

The statement that "The Indian people felt they had lost their dream of freedom and liberation from British imperialism with the fall of King Amanullah Khan's reign" is unreferenced and improbable. I recommend deletion.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:14, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Sources to preserve after copyvio cleanup

Possible sources to re-use after the copyvio cleanup include the following. These seem to be the only three that got inserted inside of the copyvio'd text, but please feel free to check if the copyvio has not yet been cleaned up.

Ismene {{cite web|last=Ismene |title=Burqa Babes: Soraya Tarzi |url=http://handfulofdust.net/?p=352 |work=A Handful of Dust – On Afghanistan, Counterinsurgency, and Whatever Else We Might Fancy |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20120817024013/http://handfulofdust.net/?p=352 |archivedate=August 17, 2012 }}
BritishPathe {{Cite web|last=Pathé|first=British|title=England: Arrival Of King Amanullah Khan And Queen Soraya Tarzi Of Afghanistan|url=https://www.britishpathe.com/video/VLVAA37N1G5FK8BCH4Y2LBQ6S4JH1-GR-12573|access-date=2021-06-27|website=www.britishpathe.com|language=en-GB}}
arab.news {{Cite web|date=2020-09-10|title=Queen Soraya of Afghanistan: A woman ahead of her time|url=https://arab.news/5hdva|access-date=2021-06-27|website=Arab News|language=en}}

Boud (talk) 17:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Copywring investigation

:The article is of now marked with several templates with the notification that is is to be investigated for copywring investigation. The end of these templates reads, Quote: "Unless the copyright status of the text of this page or section is clarified and determined to be compatible with Wikipedia's content license, the problematic text and revisions or the entire page may be deleted one week after the time of its listing (i.e. after 17:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC))".

:I have no objection to such an investigation. The information in question was not added by me.

:However, I highly object to the words "Unless the copyright status of the text of this page or section is clarified and determined to be compatible with Wikipedia's content license, the problematic text and revisions or the entire page may be deleted one week after the time of its listing".

:This would be a serious mistake. The article is highly notable, with plenty of referenced information, that has nothing to do with the information now under investigation.

:My suggestion is: if the disputed content can not be "clarified and determined to be compatible with Wikipedia's content license" - then delete the contested information. That's it. Do not delete a whole section, or a whole article, with otherwise referenced and non-contested information.

:Simply remove the contested information from the article. Do not mark the entire article with giant temples and threathen to delete it. Aciram (talk) 21:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

::Addition: I can delete the contested information from the article myself if no one objects? All this seems like uneccessary efforts when the contested information can simply be removed and only reintroduced to the article if it has good sources. To delete otherwise good sections and a highly notable article because of that is not necessary.--Aciram (talk) 22:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)