:Talk:Steagles

I thought they were called The "Pennsylvania Steagles"

The draft deferments section is horribly written it should be completelty redone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.219.58 (talk) 04:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Please see a lengthy discussion here on whether or not this article should state that the Steagles were ineligible to participate in the postseason. — DeeJayK (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

3 of 4 sources say that the origin of the moniker same old steelers came from 1 quote by Rooney. The last source attributes it to a different statement by Rooney. For Bert Bell, its not really important what the quote was, the only thing that's important is he became dejected after Rooney made the statement. I would like to bring it into this article and move it out of Bell. You guys can figure out what the real statement was. Any objections? It will allow me to delete off topic stuff/too detailed info in the Bell article:

In their inaugural season, Bell was resigned to the Steelers having a dreadful season after Rooney denigrated the team during training camp in a phrase that would soon morph into the "Same old Steelers"−(SOS).Claassen, Lyons, and LeBlanc write: the team had a new name and new uniforms but they looked like the "'same old Pirates.'" Claassen, 1963, p. 247.Lyons, 2010, p. 90.Leblanc, 1994, p. 62.{{cite news|title=Rooney and Bell Views Differ After Early Look at Steelers|url=http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kHcbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=b0wEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5658%2C3817409|date=August 10, 1941|accessdate=2 September 2011}}The Pittsburgh Press wrote: "'They still look like Steelers to me—in green jerseys.'"

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• Claassen, Harold (Spike) (1963). The History of Professional Football. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall, Inc.
• LaBlanc, Michael L.; with Ruby, Mary K. (1994). Professional Sports Team Histories: Football. Detroit: Gale Research Inc. ISBN 0-8103-8861-8
• Lyons, Robert S. (2010). On Any Given Sunday, A Life of Bert Bell. Philadelphia: Temple University Press. ISBN 978-1-59213-731-2

66.234.33.8 (talk) 23:21, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

:FYI, its not unwise to ignore Claassen, see Marc S. Maltby's book. Football historians in the 1950s are not as complex did not have the resources as an association as the PRFA in the 1980s and 1990s did. 66.234.33.8 (talk) 23:25, 8 October 2011 (UTC)66.234.33.8 (talk) 23:27, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

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