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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:22, 16 March 2013 (UTC).

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==La Reyne le veult==

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:* Reviewed: John Michael Beaumont

Created by The C of E (talk), further expanded by Prioryman (talk). Self nominated at 08:16, 2 March 2013 (UTC).

:* Might I suggest an alternative hook that could be a bit more interesting? Prioryman (talk) 13:38, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

::* ALT1: ... that "La Reyne le veult", an expression used to grant Royal Assent to British legislation, is the last remnant of when Parliament used to conduct business in Norman French?

:*I'm not convinced that the "19 times for each bill" in the article is accurate. The source says only that over the course of one particular month it was done 19 times. Could it be that 19 bills were passed in that month? —David Eppstein (talk) 06:21, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

::*I've changed it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:52, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

:::*Thanks. Here's another issue: the sentence "The practice of giving Royal Assent originated under William the Conqueror to signify that the King intended for something to be made law" is cited to a source that does not mention William. By the way, if this is eventually accepted, I prefer your original hook to ALT1, for the reason that "the last remnant" suggests that it's the only Norman French phrase still in use in Parliament, not true. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

::::*Got a ref for it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:32, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

:::::*Ok, that ref makes me happier about hook ALT1. But it still doesn't source the fact that this particular phrase originated under William. Source [6] just says "early days of Parliament" (which could mean William, or someone else, depending on what they mean by early) and source [7] just says that it is the "one last Norman phrase still in use", and elsewhere talks about William, without connecting the two. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:01, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

::::::* I've changed it to remove reference to William and simply state in the earl days of parliament. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

:*16px Ok, good to go. With the new sourcing, I prefer hook ALT1. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC){{#if:yes|

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