:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wheere

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I am nominating this article for deletion because it was created by the company’s founder in violation of WP:COI and WP:NPOV. The article appears promotional and lacks significant independent coverage to establish WP:NPOV. No reliable secondary sources provide substantial coverage of the company beyond routine funding announcements and press releases. NenChemist (talk) 04:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. NenChemist (talk) 04:42, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Technology, and France. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

:"it was created by the company’s founder in violation of WP:COI and WP:NPOV. " Do you have any evidence for this? Apart from that, what makes you believe that e.g. the first article, from renowned newspaper Le Figaro[https://www.lefigaro.fr/economie/la-pepite-francaise-wheere-revolutionne-le-gps-avec-un-systeme-de-geolocalisation-ultra-precis-20250116], is not "substantial coverage"? Fram (talk) 08:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

:@NenChemist, a COI is not grounds for deletion. A true WP:COI (with evidence) should be marked as such and then checked. Similarly it is not an automatic violation of WP:NPOV. Please reread both policies more carefully.

:Also, as stated above, the coverage used is definitely from reputable sources. In a quick Google search I see more hits, so I suspect that a proper WP:BEFORE was not performed. This nomination appears deeply flawed to me.

:N.B., I will leave to others to voice an opinion on whether WP:NCORP is met, which is the appropriate question. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:14, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

::I find this deletion nomination highly inconsistent and misleading. Initially, the article was draftified with the argument that it was "not ready for mainspace and needed improvements." Now, instead of suggesting those improvements, the same user has shifted to a completely different argument, claiming I am the founder of Wheere and that the article should be deleted, and then switching to coverage argument. This sudden change of reasoning raises serious questions about whether the goal is truly to ensure Wikipedia's quality or just to push for deletion of pages at all costs.

::The COI accusation itself is completely baseless. The only supposed "evidence" is that my name is "Jean-Pierre" while the founder’s name is "Pierre-Arnaud." This is an absurd and laughable argument with no real substance.

::Beyond that, I am not sure this user has an understanding of the media landscape in France. The article is sourced with reputable and independent publications such as [https://www.lefigaro.fr/economie/la-pepite-francaise-wheere-revolutionne-le-gps-avec-un-systeme-de-geolocalisation-ultra-precis-20250116 Le Figaro], [https://www.lesechos.fr/pme-regions/innovateurs/wheere-deploiera-sa-technologie-de-geolocalisation-indoor-aux-jo-de-paris-2024-2026350 Les Échos], and [https://www.lejournaldesentreprises.com/article/lexpert-de-la-geolocalisation-indoor-wheere-leve-11-millions-deuros-2072194 JDE], which are among the most respected newspapers in the country. Claiming that these do not constitute significant coverage only demonstrates a lack of familiarity with French media.--Jean-PierreCL (talk) 16:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

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::{{ping|Liz}} instead of relisting, please delete this blatant and unacceptable piece of WP:OUTING, claiming (presumably incorrectly, but in any case without any shred of evidence, never mind the required onwiki acknowledgment) that "I am nominating this article for deletion because it was created by the company’s founder in violation of WP:COI and WP:NPOV. " We shouldn't tolerate such policy-violating AfDs. Fram (talk) 08:41, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Fram, I just stumbled upon this discussion and your comment. Are you arguing to delete a) this article, b) this AFD or c) both? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:01, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

::::The AfD. Fram (talk) 08:08, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

• Keep In addition to COI and NPOV not being common reasons for deletion, I don't see them presenting themselves as much of an issue. While it is certainly not perfect, a lot of the issues could be fixed by simple rewordings. It reads no worse than what a novice editor or L2 speaker may write due to vocabulary issues or a lack of enwiki policy. ✶Quxyz✶ 23:06, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

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