Anne Say

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| name = Anne Say

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| caption = Coat of arms of Say

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| noble family = {{unbulleted list| Say (by birth)|Wentworth (by marriage)}}

| father = Sir John Say

| mother = Elizabeth Cheney, Lady Say

| spouse = Sir Henry Wentworth

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| birth_date = {{circa|1453}}

| birth_place = Borough of Broxbourne

| death_date = 1484–1494 (aged 31–41)

| death_place = Nettlestead, Suffolk

| issue = Sir Richard Wentworth
Edward Wentworth
Elizabeth Wentworth
Margery Wentworth
Dorothy Wentworth
Jane Wentworth

| burial_place = Newsham Abbey

}}

Anne Say (born {{circa|1453}} – died between 1484 and 1494) was an English baroness through her marriage to Sir Henry Wentworth in {{circa|1470}} until her death. She was the daughter of Sir John Say (1441–1483) and his wife Elizabeth Cheney, Lady Say. She was the maternal grandmother of Jane Seymour, the third wife of King Henry VIII of England, and a great-grandmother of Edward VI.

Early life and family

Anne Say was born {{circa|1453}} to Sir John Say and Elizabeth Cheney, Lady Say, the daughter of Sir Lawrence Cheney and his wife, Elizabeth Cockayne daughter of John Cokayne (died 1429) and Ida de Grey. Ida was a daughter of Welsh Marcher Lord Reginald Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Ruthyn and Eleanor Le Strange of Blackmere.{{Harvnb|Taylor|1822|p=8}}.{{better source needed|date=March 2025}} Through her mother, Ida was a direct descendant of Welsh Prince Gruffydd II ap Madog, Lord of Dinas Bran.

Anne's father represented Hertfordshire in several Parliaments from 1453 to 1478 and was chosen to serve as speaker from 1463 to 1465 and again 1467 to 1468. From 1455 to 1478, he held the post of under-Treasurer of the Exchequer and from 1476 that of Keeper of the Great Wardrobe. Through her mother's first marriage to Sir Frederick Tilney, of Ashwellthorpe, Norfolk, and Boston, Lincolnshire, Anne was the half sister to Elizabeth Tilney. Both sisters would be the grandmothers to three of King Henry VIII's wives, Elizabeth being the grandmother to Anne Boleyn and her cousin, Catherine Howard, and Anne being the grandmother to Jane Seymour.

Anne had six other siblings. They were:

Sir William Say (1452–1529), MP and SheriffJohn Smith Roskell, Parliament and Politics in Late Medieval England, volume 2, pp. 155–56, 170–71, Google Books, accessed 9 September 2009
Thomas Say, of Liston Hall, Essex
Leonard Say, clerk, Rector of Spaxton, Somerset
Mary Say, married Sir Philip Calthorpe
Margaret Say, married Thomas Sampson
Katherine Say, married Thomas Bassingbourne{{Cite book |last=Tregelles |first=J. A. |url=https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/25604/?offset=0#page=69&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q= |title=Published by FamilySearch here: Page 53 |date=1908 |publisher=Stephen Austin & sons, Limited |pages=53 |chapter=A History of Hoddesdon in the County of Hertfordshire: Being a Survey of that Hamlet from the Earliest Times, with an Account of Its Ancient Manors and Its Inhabitants ... From Manuscripts Prepared and Collected by the Late Alexander McKenzie, Supplemented by Extracts from the Deeds and Court Rolls at Hatfield House; Also from Other Unpublished Records and Original Sources |chapter-url=https://books.google.com/books?id=n-kVAAAAYAAJ}}{{PD-notice}}{{better source needed|date=March 2025}}

Marriage and issue

On about February 25 1470, Anne married Henry Wentworth, of Nettlestead, Suffolk. He was the only son and heir of the courtier Philip Wentworth (d. 18 May 1464) of Nettlestead, Suffolk, beheaded after the Battle of Hexham, and Mary Clifford. The couple had six children:

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Richard Wentworth (about 1480 – 17 October 1528), Baron le Despencer and Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk.{{sfn|Richardson III|2011|p=216}}{{better source needed|date=March 2025}}
Edward Wentworth.{{sfn|Richardson III|2011|p=237}}{{better source needed|date=March 2025}}
Elizabeth Wentworth (died after 22 September 1545), who married firstly, Sir Roger Darcy (d. 30 September 1508) of Danbury, Essex. She was appointed to wait on Catherine of Aragon in October 1501.Philip Yorke, Miscellaneous State Papers, vol. 1 (London, 1778), p. 2.{{primary source inline|date=March 2025}} She married secondly, as his second wife, Thomas Wyndham (d. 1522) of Felbrigg, Norfolk.{{sfn|Alsop|2009}}
Margery Wentworth ({{circa|1478}} – {{circa| October 1550}}), who married, before 1500, John Seymour, by whom she was the mother of Jane Seymour, third wife of Henry VIII and mother of Edward VI.{{sfn|Beer|2004}}{{sfn|Kirby|2008}}{{sfn|Richardson|2004|pp=381, 611, 729}}{{sfn|Richardson III|2011|pp=237–8}}
Jane Wentworth.{{sfn|Richardson III|2011|p=237}}{{better source needed|date=March 2025}}
Dorothy Wentworth, who married, as his second wife, Sir Robert Broughton.{{sfn|Richardson III|2011|p=237}}{{better source needed|date=March 2025}}

Death and burial

Anne's exact year of death remains a mystery. She was last mentioned in 1484, and her husband Henry Wentworth married his second wife Elizabeth Neville (died September 1517) on October 22, 1494. Therefore it is evident that she had died between 1484 and 1494. She is believed to be buried at Newsham Abbey, Lincolnshire, England, where her husband would later join her in {{circa|1499}}.

Royal relatives and descendants

{{Tree chart| | | ETN | | | | | | | | NSY |ETN=Elizabeth Tilney|NSY=Anne Say}}

{{Tree chart| EDH | | ELH | | | | | | MWW |EDH=Lord Edmund Howard|ELH=Elizabeth Howard|MWW=Margery Wentworth}}

{{Tree chart| CTH | | ABL |y| HN8 |y| JSM |CTH=Catherine Howard|ABL=Anne Boleyn|HN8=Henry VIII|JSM=Jane Seymour}}

{{Tree chart| | | | | | | EL1 | | ED6 | |EL1=Elizabeth I|ED6=Edward VI}}

Ancestry

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|1= 1. Anne Say

|2= 2. Sir John Say

|3= 3. Elizabeth Cheney

|4= 4. Sir John Say (b. 1445)

|5= 5. Maud

|6= 6. Sir Lawrence Cheney

|7= 7. Elizabeth Cockayne

|8= 8. Sir John de Say

|9= 9. Elizabeth le Boteler

|12= 12. Sir William Cheney

|13= 13. Katherine Pabenham

|14= 14. Sir John Cockayne

|15= 15. Ida de Grey

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References

=Works cited=

{{Cite ODNB |last=Alsop |first=J.D. |date=October 2009 |origyear=2004 |title=Wyndham, Thomas (d. 1554), naval officer and navigator |id=30146 }}
{{Cite ODNB |last=Beer |first=Barrett L. |year=2004 |title=Jane (née Jane Seymour) (1508/9–1537), queen of England, third consort of Henry VIII |id=14647 }}
{{Cite ODNB |last=Kirby |first=J.L. |year=2008 |title=Say (Fynys), Sir John (d. 1478), administrator and speaker of the House of Commons |id=24764 }}
{{Cite book |last=Richardson |first=Douglas |year=2004 |title=Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families |editor-first=Kimball G. |editor-last=Everingham |publisher=Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc |location=Baltimore, Maryland }}
{{Cite book |last=Richardson |first=Douglas |year=2011 |title=Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families |editor-first=Kimball G. |editor-last=Everingham |location=Salt Lake City |edition=2nd |volume=III |pages=237–8 |ref={{sfnref |Richardson III |2011}} |isbn=978-1449966393 }}
{{Cite book |last=Richardson |first=Douglas |year=2011 |title=Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families |editor-first=Kimball G. |editor-last=Everingham |location=Salt Lake City |edition=2nd |volume=IV |page=289 |ref={{sfnref |Richardson IV |2011}} |isbn=978-1460992708 }}
{{Cite book |last=Taylor |first=Ida Ashworth |author-link=Ida Ashworth Taylor |title=Lady Jane Grey and Her Times |publisher=Sherwood, Neely and Jones |location=London |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=j1ZjAAAAMAAJ |access-date=14 March 2011 |year=1822}}

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Category:Women of the Tudor period