File talk:Luigi Mangione sig.svg

Copyright vio or hoax?

Not starting a formal FfD because I don't really know the rules around files. But is this not a copyright vio? We don't have permission from the original reddit post to use this, and reddit falls under WP:SPS anyway. guninvalid (talk) 18:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

: Clicking through the file's licensing template to Commons:When to use the PD-signature tag, why we should suspect that this signature is protected by copyright in the United States? Einsof (talk) 21:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

::The signature is fraudulent. The letter was fake and not from Luigi Mangione. Please visit his official website and add his real signature. Scroll down to the bottom question that shows an example of a fake vs authentic letter from Luigi Mangione. I don't know how to add it on here. His real signature is an actual signature. Not some printed letter that look like a teenager wrote it. Many items on Reddit are false and I don't know how it could be used as a reliable source. BOu7299 (talk) 17:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:::I agree with {{u|BOu7299}} that this signature is fraudulent. Mangione's attorneys maintain an official website for information about him and his case. It is [https://www.luigimangioneinfo.com/ Luigi Mangione Legal Defense Information]. Near the bottom is a section called "How can I verify if a letter or email attributed to Luigi that I see online is real?" That includes an example of a forged or fake signature and a genuine signature. This signature is a hoax. Cullen328 (talk) 08:09, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Even if Mangione's attorney's weren't actively saying (per Cullen's link) {{tq|Luigi's legal team is aware of ... several forged letters claiming to be from Luigi ... Currently, we do not have a method to verify the authenticity of letters or emails attributed to Luigi.}}, in general we should probably not trust that a random reddit post of a photograph of a letter really is an authentic letter. I don't see that this is a copyright issue – I think the current PD=signature tag applies to the signature and I don't see what other copyright is relevant here – but it might be deletable as unverifiable/possible hoax. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 09:53, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:::I have overwritten the hoax file with the correct signature shown on the website. - dwarfroe (talk / contr) 21:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)