Help talk:Interwiki linking

Could somebody drop in at Talk:Sambe#Interwiki? Thanks in advance ☆ Bri (talk) 02:44, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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|result = Clear consensus for support. Now to actually do the merge. sam1370 (talk / contribs) 05:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)}}

I think that Help:Interwikimedia links should be merged into this article, Help:Interwiki linking. The two articles cover the same topic, and this article appears to have all information that the other one has.

By the way, maybe we should have Help:Linking to sister projects redirect to the merge article?

Please discuss the proposed merge here and not on Help talk:Interwikimedia links or anywhere else. Care to differ or discuss with me? The N^th User 02:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support I see no reason for having two pages.PBS (talk) 10:00, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
• Support Yes please! Darn fragmentation. From looking at a couple of random 2006 era diffs, it seems that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Interwikimedia_links&oldid=46930231 Help:Interwikimedia_links] was originally a simpler/basic overview, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Interwiki_linking&oldid=48733214 Help:Interwiki_linking] was always the more complex version. The former's intent should just be the top section of a single page. Thank you for doing this! Quiddity (talk) 00:33, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
• Yes. Seems to be a pointless WP:ADVICEFORK.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  13:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
• Support. Daask (talk) 13:06, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, {{u|Michael Bednarek}}; re [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Interwiki_linking&oldid=prev&diff=932079099 this revert], I think it doesn't work, because an English-wikipedia article will not have a name given in an completely non-Roman script. Therefore the redlink will be wrong; it will be for an article that will never be created, and will thus never turn blue. Example: {{ill|حليمة مظفر|ar}}. This gives a non-arabic-speaker no clue what the English article should be called, and even an arabic-speaking editor would need to go look up our romanization standards to know. Maybe we need another parameter for the English-article title, if different from the foreign-language title. HLHJ (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

:The {{tl|ill}} template has options that cover this: {{ill|Halima Muzaffar|ar|حليمة مظفر}}. I don't think this help page should try to explain all that the template can do, provided it has a link to the template. Disclaimer: "Halima Muzaffar" is from Google Translate; I know no Arabic. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

::Aside: {{tl|ill}} also provides options to link to Wikidata ({{ill|Halema Muzaffar|qid=Q12208649}}) and Commons ({{ill|Halema Muzaffar|Commons|Category:Halema Muzaffar}}). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:31, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

:::That's great, that's the functionality I wanted and did not find. Any clarification that would make subsequent editors more likely to figure it out is good, but obviously not everything can go everywhere. HLHJ (talk) 17:23, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Hey {{u|PK2}}, I tried wikipedia:de:James Bond and :de:w:James Bond with the first being a red link, and the 2nd one linking to English wiki page despite looking like a valid German interwiki link. Am I misunderstanding your edits? Shushugah (talk) 16:17, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:I'm sorry about that. -- PK2 (talk) 23:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

::The redlink on the first is easily explained: the wikipedia: part is not being parsed as an interwiki prefix, but as a namespace prefix, and there is no page named de:James Bond in the Wikipedia: namespace. The fix for this is to shorten wikipedia: to w:, as in w:de:James Bond.

::The fact that the second one is apparently ignoring the de: part is a puzzler. When I hover over the link, or examine the HTML for the page, the link is https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/w:James_Bond but upon clicking it, the page that is reached has the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond - I think that the behaviour for this one has indeed changed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:51, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

:I'm having a similar issue with the syntax. I'm trying to use Íslensk orðsifjabók to link from wikt:Wiktionary:Reference_templates to Wikipedia. It doesn't work there, but it works here: Íslensk orðsifjabók. Does anyone know what's going on? Caoimhin ceallach (talk) 14:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

::@Caoimhin ceallach, works for me. Please see wikt:Special:Permalink/80816629. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

What rights do a user need to have to add/change/delete the interwiki prefixes? I would like a halopedia: prefix to link to Halopedia, a Halo fan site (https://www.halopedia.org/$1), youtubechannel: to link to a YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/$1), and youtubevideo: to link to a YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1). EthanGaming7640 (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I recently had a student create an interwiki-like link from the section on Wife No. 19 on the Ann Eliza Young page to a scan of the book on Internet Archive. As I'm researching the iarchive interwiki link, it looks like it was made to make it easier to link to sources on Wikisource. Is it appropriate to use in the body of a Wikipedia page? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Following a discussion at Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2022_February_9#Links to imdb that looks like wikilinks and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_79#Masking imdb links as wikilinks {{u|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} and I have removed all instances to date where interwiki links such as Zengo have been used in Mainspace. The searches for imdbname [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22imdbname%22+insource%3A%2F%5C%5Bimdbname%3A%2F&ns0=1] and imdbtitle [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22imdbtitle%22+insource%3A%2F%5C%5Bimdbtitle%3A%2F&ns0=1] therefore currently contain no hits. Unfortunately, the documentation on this Help Page implies that such interwiki links are acceptable in the body text of articles, disagreeing with WP:ELPOINTS and leading to WP:EASTEREGGs as when clicked they take readers out of Wikipedia despite looking to most like conventional bluelinks. Note that there are templates {{tl|imdbname}} and {{tl|imdbtitle}} that achieve the same outcome and are widely used in the external links section of articles. Please can an expert alter this Help documentation to make it less likely editors will use these links incorrectly? Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

:I haven't checked the documentation but I support this message. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

The wording should be changed to say that Interlanguage links are deprecated in mainspace, not that they are deprecated everywhere.

Section {{slink|Help:Interwiki linking|Interlanguage links|nopage=yes}} marks interlanguage links as deprecated, full stop, but they have a good use which should encouraged, not discouraged, and that is for translators who start their translated articles in Draft space. I have created dozens of articles this way, and it is a huge timesaver to have the manual interlanguage link point to the original (foreign) language Wikipedia article, which makes it show up in the left sidebar/language dropdown list, from where you can quickly find the original. There is evidence of usage of it in the first three languages I tried: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=draft+insource%3A%2F%5C%5B%5C%5Bde%3A%2F&title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns118=1 de],

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help_talk:Interwiki_linking&action=edit§ion=18 fr], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gonzalo_Lira es], and so on. (Some of these are clearly malformed interwiki links which failed to include the leading colon, maybe even most of them; but not all are.)

There is nothing wrong with this usage, and the guideline should not discourage it. Mathglot (talk) 02:42, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

:I agree. Old-style interlanguage links are generally not needed any more, but, as WP:LOCALLINK points out, there are situations where they still serve a purpose, even in mainspace. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Special period advertising sister projects. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 21:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

It appears that this guideline is outdated: Commons is linked automatically and shown on the sidebar of the articlr, if it is in wikidata. I am not sure whether the same is valid for other sister projects like wikiquote. - Altenmann >talk 20:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

:Which specific part is outdated? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

::Sorry I was not clear: the section about linking to sister project must say that Commons and possibly other sister projects are linked automatically and adding templates like {commonscat} is no longer necessary. Instead, people must update wikidata. I am raising the issue because recently I see a flurry of wikignomes adding unnecesary {commonscat} template into articles on my watchlist. - Altenmann >talk 00:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

:::Most of the page is about making links such as commons:category:Wikimedia, not about {{tlx|commons}} and similar boxes. There are also times when Wikidata is incapable of producing an appropriate link, see for example the two {{tlx|commonscat inline}} at AEC Renown#External links. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:48, 2 June 2024 (UTC)