Herbert Schoen

{{short description|German footballer}}

{{Use dmy dates|date=March 2023}}

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| image = Herbert Schoen (cropped).jpg

| caption = Schoen in 1956

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| birth_date = {{birth date|1929|5|18|df=y}}

| birth_place = Luckenwalde, Free State of Prussia, Germany

| death_date = {{death date and age|2014|04|08|1929|5|18|df=y}}

| height =

| position = Defender

| youthyears1 = 1948–1950

| youthclubs1 = SV DVP Potsdam

| years1 = 1950–1954

| clubs1 = SG Dynamo Dresden

| caps1 = 133

| goals1 = 2

| years2 = 1954–1959

| clubs2 = SC Dynamo Berlin

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| years3 = 1959–1962

| clubs3 = SG Dynamo Hohenschönhausen

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| nationalyears1 = 1952–1957

| nationalteam1 = East Germany

| nationalcaps1 = 12

| nationalgoals1 = 0

| manageryears1 = 1974-1981

| managerclubs1 = BFC Dynamo II{{refn|group=nb|As the coach of the team of BFC Dynamo in the Next Generation Oberliga ({{langx|de| Nachwuchsoberliga}}) (de) between 1976 and 1981.{{cite news |last=Schlegel |first=Klaus |date=11 January 1977 |title=Das Bewährte wird bewahrt |url=https://home.snafu.de/erich.mielke/HTMLPresse/1977_01_11.html |language=German |work=Neues Deutschland |location=Berlin |publisher=Socialist Unity Party of Germany |access-date=3 August 2022 }}

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Herbert Schoen (18 May 1929 – 8 April 2014) was a German international footballer.

Playing career

The defender played internationally with the East Germany national team in the 1950s.{{Cite web | url = http://rsssf.com/miscellaneous/hbschoen-intl.html | title = Herbert Schoen - International Appearances | first = Matthias | last = Arnhold | date = 14 January 2016 | accessdate = 28 January 2016 | publisher = Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation}}

On club level he appeared in 179 Oberliga matches.{{Cite web | url = http://rsssf.com/players/hbschoendata.html | title = Herbert Schoen - Matches and Goals in Oberliga | first = Matthias | last = Arnhold | date = 14 January 2016 | accessdate = 28 January 2016 | publisher = Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation}}

Coaching career

Herbert Schoen continued as youth coach at SC Dynamo Berlin and then BFC Dynamo after retiring as a player. He would train players such as Werner Voigt and Frank Terletzki. Schoen was a tough-as-nails defender during his playing career. Voigt remembers how Schoen forced the players to throw snowballs at each other, but the players were not allowed to fend them off with their hands, they were only allowed to dodge, to increase the ability to react.{{cite news |last=Schulz |first=Jürgen |date=4 October 2004 |title=Der Schleifer von Union |url=https://taz.de/Der-Schleifer-von-Union/!692003/ |language=German |newspaper=Die Tageszeitung |publisher=taz Verlags u. Vertriebs GmbH |location=Berlin |access-date=4 August 2022 }} Schoen was also the first coach of Frank Terletzki. Teletzki has described Schoen as a "tough dog". He claims that learned virtues such as discipline and hardness towards oneself from Schoen. Terletzki said: "It didn't matter to us whether it was pouring rain or snowing, we always trained."{{cite news |last=Nemschok |first=Edgar |date=29 December 2012 |title=Immer noch große Lust auf Fußball |url=https://www.moz.de/lokales/fuerstenwalde/immer-noch-grosse-lust-auf-fussball-47947278.html |work=Märkische Oderzeitung |language=de |location=Frankfurt an der Oder |publisher=Märkisches Medienhaus GmbH & Co. KG |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210926115642/https://www.moz.de/lokales/fuerstenwalde/immer-noch-grosse-lust-auf-fussball-47947278.html |archive-date=26 September 2021 |access-date=26 September 2021 }}

Schoen coached the Junior team of BFC Dynamo in the 1965-66 season. The junior team under Schoen won the 1965-66 East German Junior Cup ({{langx|de|Junge Welt Pokal}}) (de), defeating the previous winner FC Karl-Marx-Stadt 5-1 in the final.{{cite magazine |last=Hartwig |first=Wolfgang |date=28 June 1966 |title=BFC Dynamo trumhpierte souvernän |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201966/FUWO%201966%2026.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche (FuWo) (de) |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1966 |issue=26 |page=14 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=26 January 2025 }} Schoen then coached the youth team of BFC Dynamo in the 1966-67 season. Under Schoen, the youth team became East German Youth Champion (de) in the 1966-67 season, defeating SG Dynamo Eisleben 2-0 in the replay of the final on 15 July 1967. The team included future DDR-Oberliga players such as Frank Terletzki, Bernd Brillat, Wolfgang Filohn, Rainer Rohde and Gerald Schwierske.{{cite magazine |last=Binkowski |first=Manfred |date=18 July 1967 |title=Größere spielerische Reife entschied |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201967/FUWO%201967%2029.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1967 |issue=29 |page=4 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=19 March 2023 }} The youth team of BFC Dynamo under Schoen also won the East German Youth Cup (Youth FDGB-Pokal) ({{langx|de|FDGB-Pokal der Jugend}}) in the 1967-68 season.{{cite magazine |last=Binkowski |first=Mandfred |date=11 June 1967 |title=Herbert Schoens Trümpfe staschen |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201968/FUWO%201968%20%2024.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1968 |issue=4 |page=5 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=19 March 2023 }}

Schoen then coached the Junior team of BFC Dynamo in the Junior Oberliga ({{langx|de|Juniorenoberliga}}) (de) from the 1968-69 season.{{cite magazine |author=|date=6 August 1968 |title=Visitenkarte |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201968/FUWO%201968%20%2032.pdf |journal=Neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1968 |issue=32 |page=6 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }}{{cite magazine |author= |date=August 1969 |title=JUNIOREN-OBERLIGA: Reifeprozeß wird beschleunigt |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%20Sonderausgabe/FUWO%201969%20Sonderausgabe.%20Saison%201969-70.pdf |magazine=Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |volume=1969 |issue=Sonderausgabe |page=26 |issn=0323-6420 |access-date=4 February 2023 }} He led the team in the Junior Oberliga until the end of the first half of the 1971-72 season.{{cite magazine |author= |date=7 December 1971 |title=JUGEND: Wismut Aue - BFC Dynamo |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201971/FUWO%201971%2049.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1971 |issue=49 |page=13 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }} Hermann Bley then took over as coach in the Junior Oberliga.{{cite magazine |author= |date=14 December 1971 |title=JUGEND: BFC Dynamo - Stahl Riesa |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201971/FUWO%201971%2050.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1971 |issue=50 |page=13 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }}{{cite magazine |author= |date=7 March 1972 |title=JUGEND: FC Vorwärts Frankfurt (O.) - BFC Dynamo |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201972/FUWO%201972%2010.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1972 |issue=10 |page=13 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }}{{cite magazine |author= |date=24 May 1972 |title=JUGEND: BFC Dynamo - FC Hansa Rostock |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201972/FUWO%201972%2021.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1972 |issue=21 |page=13 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=5 February 2023 }} Jürgen Bogs then became the new coach for the junior team for the 1972-73 season.{{cite magazine |author= |date=3 October 1972 |title=JUNIOREN-OBERLIGA: BFC Dynamo - 1. FC Union Berlin |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201972/FUWO%201972%2040.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1972 |issue=40 |page=7 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=5 February 2023 }} Shoen then again became the coach of the BFC Dynamo youth team. He led the youth team of BFC Dynamo in the semi-final and the final of the Youth FDGB-Pokal at the end of the 1971-72 season.{{cite magazine |author= |date=3 May 1972 |title=BFC Dynamo wieder im Finale |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201972/FUWO%201972%2018.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1972 |issue=18 |page=13 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }} The youth team of BFC Dynamo under Schoen eventually won the 1971-72 Youth FDGB-Pokal. This youth team included players such as Lutz Eigendorf, Hans-Jürgen Riediger and Roland Jüngling.{{cite magazine |author= |date=24 May 1972 |title=JUGEND |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201972/FUWO%201972%2021.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1972 |issue=21 |page=13 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }}

Schoen became the new coach of the reserve team of BFC Dynamo in 1974. BFC Dynamo II played in the second tier DDR-Liga at the time.{{cite magazine |author= |date=20 August 1974 |title=Die Liga vor der Saison 1974/75: Staffel B - BFC Dynamo Berlin II |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%201974/FUWO%201974%2034.pdf |magazine=Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |publisher=DFV der DDR |volume=1974 |issue=34 |page=11 |issn=0323-8407 |access-date=4 February 2023 }} The team finished the 1974-75 DDR-Liga B as runner-up. The reserve teams of the 14 DDR-Oberliga clubs were no longer allowed to participate in the DDR-Liga after the 1975-76 season. The Next Generation Oberliga ({{langx|de| Nachwuchsoberliga}}) (de) was introduced instead. The reserve teams of the 14 DDR-Oberliga clubs would now have to continue in the Next Generation Oberliga or the third tier Bezirksliga. Youth teams of the 14 DDR-Oberliga clubs were all eligible to start in the 1976-77 Next Generation Oberliga. BFC Dynamo II joined the Next Generation Oberliga as youth team. Schoen continued as coach of BFC Dynamo II in the Next Generation Oberliga until 1981.{{cite magazine |author= |date=August 1976 |title=Die Kollektive der Nachwuchs-Oberliga |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%20Sonderausgabe/FUWO%201976%20Sonderausgabe.%20Saison%201976-77.pdf |magazine=Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |volume=1976 |issue=Sonderausgabe |pages=16–17 |issn=0323-6420 |access-date=4 February 2023 }}{{cite magazine |author= |date=August 1980 |title=Visitenkarten der 14 Mannschaften unserer Nachwuchs-Oberliga |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%20Sonderausgabe/FUWO%201980%20Sonderausgabe.%20Saison%201980-81.pdf |magazine=Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |volume=1980 |issue=Sonderausgabe |page=28 |issn=0323-6420 |access-date=4 February 2023 }}{{cite magazine |author= |date=August 1981 |title=Visitenkarten der 14 Mannschaften unserer Nachwuchs-Oberliga |url=https://www.fcc-supporters.org/fuwo/files/FUWO%20Sonderausgabe/FUWO%201981%20Sonderausgabe.%20Saison%201981-82.pdf |magazine=Deutsches Sportecho/Die neue Fußballwoche |language=de |location=Berlin |volume=1981 |issue=Sonderausgabe |page=19 |issn=0323-6420 |access-date= }}

Later life

Schoen remained involved in BFC Dynamo and an active member of the club into old age. Schoen died in 2014 at the age of 84.{{cite web|url=http://www.bfcdynamo.biz/basis/index.php/startseite/news/930-der-bfc-dynamo-trauert-um-herbert-schoen |title=Der BFC Dynamo trauert um Herbert Schoen |publisher=Berliner FC Dynamo |language=German |accessdate=15 April 2014 |url-status=dead |archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20140416192056/http://www.bfcdynamo.biz/basis/index.php/startseite/news/930-der-bfc-dynamo-trauert-um-herbert-schoen |archivedate=16 April 2014 }}

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