Module talk:WikidataCoord
Error of WikidataCoord
Precision of ±0.1° seems to make an error. ±1° is fine, as is ±0.01°. 213.205.251.75 (talk) 18:59, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:Can you show examples of what you mean?
:—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:29, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Trappist the monk}} I suppose you should change Wikdata to Wikidata for the coordinate template. :-) --Gereon K. (talk) 20:59, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
:::You could have done that, the module isn't protected.
:::—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:06, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
::::The editing format is not standard source editing. I was afraid to edit code. --Gereon K. (talk) 13:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Strange error
There might be some strange error in module, see Talk:Statue of Lutgardis, Charles Bridge#Strange error. Jklamo (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Problem with coordinate using dm (dms without s)
If the coordinate is without arcseconds, it falls over. I think the seconds should be defaulted to 0"
Not Samuel Pepys (talk) 11:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:Are you sure? If I use the coordinates shown on the doc page for this module and remove the seconds portions that I get a working link:
:47°34'12"N, 52°40'55"W → 47°34'N, 52°40'W
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:Do you have an example that does not work?
:—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
::https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:WikidataCoord&oldid=985687582
::also, GeoHack out of the {{tl|Infobox settlement}} gives different errors, such as
https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Argao¶ms=9_53_N_123_36_E_type:city(72366)_region:PH-CEB so doesn't give dim: but gives type:city(pop) and gives a region:PH-CEB which shouldn't be used for third-order places (check GeoNames ID = 1730195) Not Samuel Pepys (talk) 18:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
:::I am not going to even attempt to decode what it is that you are saying at {{slink|Template talk:WikidataCoord#Changing}}. I just go cross-eyed when I try to read that. Clearly, there is something wrong with this from {{tlx|PH_wikidata/power}}:
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:::I asked you for an example that shows that this module does not work with coordinates that omit seconds. I don't think that you have given me such an example. If this module is broken, provide an example using the simplest construction you can create.
:::—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:23, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
::::1 a fourth-order place, {{Q|Q4708210}} area=0.48 km2 coordinates 10°19'55"N, 123°57'13"Edisplay=it but not here for testing)
{{WikidataCoord|Q4708210|dim:1000|format=dms|display=i}}
GeoHack - https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=10_19_55_N_123_57_13_E_dim:1000 – Correct
via Infobox it gives https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Alang-alang,_Mandaue¶ms=10_19_55_N_123_57_13_E_type:city(13457)_region:PH-CEB – wrong, twice
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::::2 a third-order place, {{Q|Q315703}} area=191.50 km2 coordinates 9°53'N, 123°36'E
{{WikidataCoord|Q315703|type:adm3rd_dim:16000|format=dms|display=i}}
direct GeoHack – https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=9_53_N_123_36_E_ – no cordinate parameters
via Infobox – https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Argao¶ms=9.88_N_123.6_E_region:PH_type:city(72366) region is short, and should be given only for adm1st and adm2nd; type:city(pop) is not particularly helpful
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::::3 a second-order place, {{Q|Q13879}} area=337.49 km2 coordinates 9°11'N, 123°34'E
{{WikidataCoord|Q13879|type:adm2nd_region:PH-SIG_dim:64000|format=dms|display=i}}
direct GeoHack – https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=9_11_N_123_34_E_ – no coordinate parameters
via Infobox – https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Siquijor¶ms=9.18_N_123.57_E_region:PH_type:adm1st_dim:8km region:PH is short; type:adm1st is wrong; dim:8km is wrong
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::::4 a first-order place {{Q|Q13669}} area=15,895.66 km2 coordinates 10°0'N, 123°30'E
{{WikidataCoord|Q13669|type:adm1st_region:PH-07_dim:256000|format=dms|display=i}}
direct GeoHack – https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=10_0_N_123_30_E_ – no coordinate parameters
via Infobox – https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Central_Visayas¶ms=10_N_123.5_E_region:PH_type:city(7396898) incomplete region; type:city(pop)
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::::I'll complete tomorrow. Not Samuel Pepys (talk) 00:23, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
(I don't know how to write a left arrow)
I tried 2 – 4 changing wikidata to full dms:
2b direct from template https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=9_53_0_N_123_36_0_E_type:adm3rd_dim:16000
via infobox https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Argao¶ms=9.8833_N_123.6_E_region:PH_type:city(72366)
3b direct from template https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=9_11_0_N_123_34_0_E_type:adm2nd_region:PH-SIG_dim:64000
via infobox https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Siquijor¶ms=9.1833_N_123.5667_E_region:PH_type:adm1st_dim:8km
4b direct from template https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Module_talk:WikidataCoord¶ms=10_0_0_N_123_30_0_E_type:adm1st_region:PH-07_dim:256000
via infobox https://geohack.toolforge.org https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Central_Visayas¶ms=10_0_0_N_123_30_0_E_region:PH-07_type:city(7396898)
So different coordinate parameters with full dms (with s=0"). But still wrong!
Not Samuel Pepys (talk) 09:18, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
:So what you are really complaining about is not that Module:WikidataCoord doesn't handle coordinates without seconds but that it does not include the template parameters in the call to {{tlx|coord}} when seconds are omitted. It would have been better for both of us had you simply said that at the beginning.
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:Yep, {{tnull|coord}} parameters are not passed when seconds are omitted. This module did not initially support degrees/minutes; that was added later by another editor so I'll fix that. You do know that {{tnull|coord}} has {{para|qid}}, right? See these:
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:—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:19, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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:Fixed I think. Your examples:
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:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q4708210|dim:1000|format=dms|display=i|_debug=x}}
:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q4708210|dim:1000|format=dms|display=i}}
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:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q315703|type:adm3rd_dim:16000|format=dms|display=i|_debug=x}}
:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q315703|type:adm3rd_dim:16000|format=dms|display=i}}
:#
:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q13879|type:adm2nd_region:PH-SIG_dim:64000|format=dms|display=i|_debug=x}}
:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q13879|type:adm2nd_region:PH-SIG_dim:64000|format=dms|display=i}}
:#
:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q13669|type:adm1st_region:PH-07_dim:256000|format=dms|display=i|_debug=x}}
:#:{{WikidataCoord|Q13669|type:adm1st_region:PH-07_dim:256000|format=dms|display=i}}
:—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks. Yes, I spent hours, more than four, just to find the question. So that's fine now. But I don't know what is the point of WikidataCoord when it does the same think as coord? PS only four of your answers are printed!
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::The other question is why is the internal gubbins of infobox settlement ignoring the parameters from coord / wikidatacoord and instead make up stupid from here and there wikidata – region is not put in third- and fourth-order so they're insisting (wrongly) from a higher order one; and type:city is ludicrously, completely wrong, while dim: is ignored even though it's true. Not Samuel Pepys (talk) 13:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
:::This module was created in May 2016; before support for {{para|qid}} was added to Module:Coordinates in November 2018.
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:::What do you mean by: {{tq|PS only four of your answers are printed!}}
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:::I am not familiar with {{tlx|Infobox settlement}}, but a cursory glance through the template's wikitext doesn't clearly show that that template gets anything from wikidata. Clearly, it gets data from Module:ISO 3166 which also does not appear to get anything from wikidata. To resolve issues with {{tnull|Infobox settlement}}, your next stop is Template talk:Infobox settlement. Write a simple question; do not obfuscate with unnecessary detail as you did here.
:::—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:42, 28 October 2020 (UTC)