Talk:1940s in music#Warning%3A corrupt 1944 chart

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Cheers.Dimadick (talk) 03:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

This is just a reminder about the 1944 chart ("Most Played Juke Box Folk Records") + Race, I pasted info below

IMHO we should avoid mentioning it

I saw an event that referred to Nat King Cole having the last African-American Country no.1 until Charlie Pride in 1968.(I removed it)

"Straighten Up and Fly Right" was no. 1 one week, then totally disappeared without a word the next, along with Louis Jordan

My theory is that a Billboard editor realized the Harlem Hit Parade was ln two places at once. It was a bad idea, and they removed it after 8 months

Neither Nat or Louis considered themselves Country artists in 1944.

Our "1944 in Country Music" Top Hits was recalculated (by me) to show the top Country hits of 1944 only, I am preparing a nice year-end "Harlem Hit Parade" in addition.

Nobody cares much about 1944, which is ok

Thanks

Excuse me for rewriting history a little, but I just presented the facts as professionally as -possible.

Hi, I wrote all the stuff you pasted here. Is there currently a problem? Tillywilly17 (talk) 12:55, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

• January 8 – Billboard publishes its first "Most Played Juke Box Folk Records" chart, the first widespread method of tracking the nationwide popularity of current country music songs. The first No. 1 song is "Pistol Packin' Mama" by both Al Dexter and Bing Crosby and The Andrews Sisters.{{cite web |date=8 January 1944 |title=The Billboard Jan 8, 1944 pg 18 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jwwEAAAAMBAJ&dq=The+Billboard+Jan+8%2C+1944&pg=PT10 |access-date=16 July 2021 |website=books.google.com}} However, from January to August 26, 1944, "Race" records were also included. The September 2, 1944 chart forward is the predecessor to today's Hot Country Songs chart.

On August 1, 1942, a strike by the American Federation of Musicians ended all recording sessions. Record companies kept business going by releasing recordings from their vaults, but by mid-1943, alternate sources were running dry, as the strike continued. Decca was the first company to settle in September 1943, but RCA Victor and Columbia held on until November 1944.Peter A. Soderbergh, "Olde Records Price Guide 1900–1947", Wallace–Homestead Book Company, Des Moines, Iowa, 1980, pp.136–139 It comes as no surprise that eleven of the top twenty records of 1944 were released by Decca, with two more by Capitol, the second company to settle. The remaining seven were released by Okeh, the label revived in 1940 by CBS to replace Vocalion, now the C&W division of Columbia Records, and apparently unaffected by the strike. Sadly, it would be put to sleep again in 1945, when releases were switched to the parent label.

In response to the growing popularity of Hillbilly (Country) music, The Billboard's "Most Played Juke Box Folk Records" chart, began on January 8, 1944, but for reasons unknown, included "Race" records, despite a chart already existing for those. On September 2, race records were abruptly removed, including the two top records from the prior week. Our chart does not include R&B records, Dimadick (talk) 03:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

:Hi, I wrote all the stuff you pasted here. Is there currently a problem? Tillywilly17 (talk) 12:56, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I am going to post this with some modifications. Each year I did the top records, I used the same formula to compile points for each song. Billboard added Jukebox and DJ charts, but I only used the Best Selling charts for this, 1940-1949. For White Christmas, I added the points it got each year to its 1942 score, it just missed topping the list. All years are represented which tells me this list is pretty good. I will make it top 50 and get rid of 2nd row. Also can do Country and R&B

Before the Hot100 was implemented in 1958, Billboard magazine measured a record's performance with three charts, 'Best-Selling Popular Retail Records', 'Records Most Played By Disk Jockeys' and 'Most-Played Juke Box Records'. However, since the latter two charts were not implemented until mid-decade, we focus on 'Best-Selling Retail Records of the 1940s.' Since it consisted of ten positions for most of the decade, only ten per week were recognized. Each week fifteen points were awarded to the number one record, then nine points for number two, eight points for number three, and so on, with one point for number ten. This system balances songs that reach the highest positions, as well as those that had the longest chart runs.