Talk:2012 Republican National Convention#Semi-Protected

The people from Romney's church and his friend spoke too. They should be added. J390 (talk) 02:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

: It doesn't surprise me that a few people who are LDS spoke in this convention. Are you referring to somebody from Mitt Romney's current or former LDS ward (aka local congregation)? That would be noteworthy if it was the case. --Robert Horning (talk) 23:19, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

::The man who was his assistant leader and succeeded him as leader spoke. JRSpriggs (talk) 01:38, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

::: Who was that? --Robert Horning (talk) 18:04, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

:::: I dug around and found a really cool "human interest story" related to the convention. The person who I think you are referring to here is [http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765598726/Mormon-ex-police-chief-Kenneth-Hutchins-to-pray-at-Republican-National-Convention-after-life-of.html?pg=all Ken Hutchins], who served as an LDS Bishop and later as a counselor in the stake presidency of the Boston Massachusetts Stake (LDS) under Mitt Romney. Yeah, that is roughly the equivalent of a Catholic Auxiliary bishop, but for the LDS Church and ended up as Mitt Romney's successor as Stake President. He ended up giving the invocation for the final day of the convention, although the official program listed in the article mentions his wife (Priscilla) as the person who actually gave the invocation. I don't think I could do an objective summary of this article for its inclusion into this article, but it certainly is something interesting. --Robert Horning (talk) 22:10, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

:::: Another couple of articles related to this can be found here:

:::* http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/08/29/mormons-who-served-leaders-with-mitt-romney-address-republican-convention/lEAYPWqHRtNs9ktPxY5xyK/story.html

:::* http://www.wbur.org/2011/12/06/romney-mormonism

:::* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/27/republican-national-convention-2012-religious-tampa_n_1833282.html

:::* http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/54790718-218/bennett-mitt-mormons-olympians.html.csp

:::: This isn't enough for a separate article or perhaps not a section, but it does represent some diverse coverage. --Robert Horning (talk) 22:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

:::::The Oparowsky are also members FYI. ViriiK (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Why is there no reference to the controversy surrounding the Paul delegates? Seems notable, considering it made some headlines. 173.166.109.49 (talk) 12:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I'n not sure the article should call it a 'controversy' since it was just politics. Media gave very little coverage. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 10:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

It was at least a 'controversy', the media gave it an [https://www.google.com/search?q=ron+paul+rnc+delegates&hl=en&gl=us&biw=921&bih=535&sa=X&ei=vWtQUMycNOLc0QGwmYCgBA&ved=0CCAQpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A8%2F22%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F12%2F2012&tbm=nws plenty] of coverage, and I'm really frustrated with the way that it's being suppressed in this article. groupuscule (talk) 11:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

: It isn't be suppressed in this article. There just is a lack of reliable sources to include this information, plus the shifting game of trying to make this article reflect that Ron Paul has more support than he seems to have in terms of polling numbers. The fact that Ron Paul didn't win the nomination or was even kept from speaking on the floor of the convention has nothing to do with this article.

: Even just getting a collection of secondary sources from which to build a section would be useful. If you really want to participate in this discussion, help us to find some sources other than some random google link, which does nothing useful here. I would agree that writing something according to Wikipedia guidelines in a neutral way should be added to this article in terms of what happened to the Ron Paul delegates at the convention, not to mention a seeming complete disregard for parliamentary procedure at the convention, but some random YouTube video or a blog post isn't going to cut it for things like this. There is a reason why Wikipedia has developed these policies, particularly for something like articles about politics. Now that some time has passed since the convention, hopefully something a little more objective and neutral can be written. --Robert Horning (talk) 19:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

:::In hindsight, how many state/providence delegations went for Ron Paul? Three or four? Which states were they? Just asking, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 23:26, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

::::Nevada, Minnesota, and Maine were all clearly delegations that supported Ron Paul, and there were other state delegations with a very large contingent of Ron Paul supporters. Hopefully with the convention over it will be possible to clean this article up and find some actual reporting on the issue. --Robert Horning (talk) 14:27, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

AGREED. This article definitely needs to mention the absolute FRAUD committed by the GOP during the primary to keep Paul from deadlocking the convention. How about the fact that the RI delegates were driven around the convention until the rules-change vote had taken place. Did any of you even read the twitter-feed for C-SPAN on Ustream on which only delegates could post? There were hardcore romney fans going in that turned into hardcore Boehner-hating Libertarians going out. THE WHOLE THING WAS A DAMN SHAM AND ANYONE WHO PAID ATTENTION KNOWS IT!

This article makes this convention look like a perfectly legitimate political convention, instead of the grand finale of corruption to top off a primary season of absolutely fraudulent activities, including outright assaults... Perfect example of how nobody who is allowed to keep their edits on Wikipedia knows their foot from their elbow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.74.34.52 (talk) 07:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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