Talk:2013 North Korean nuclear test#rfc 7E01EB9

The leftist group Utopia has praised North Korea's nuclear test (http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1150499/leftist-group-utopia-congratulates-north-korea-nuclear-blast). Are there any other leftist groups that have praised the test, or have all the other leftist organizations been unanimous in condemning the test? 21:25, 15 February 2013 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.28.33 (talk)

::I suggest you familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Also, please sign your talk page posts with four tildes. 71.170.12.131 (talk) 19:26, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

2006 and 2009 tests is listed with lowest of the international estimates from geological measuring in the fact boxes on the right side of the page. But for the 2013 test Wikipedia has listed up the highest estimate (40 kilotons). This makes it seem that this bomb is 17 times as powerful as the 2009 test. But in reality the bombs has become just a little more powerful from time to time.

The german measurement is clearly wrong as it is totally out of range with the other nations. Please correct.

Stein S., Oslo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.128.106.111 (talk) 12:12, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

:Even if the German estimate is wrong, the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia as "verifiability, not truth". However the infobox range of 12-21kt is not reflected anywhere in the text or referenced. JamieSc (talk) 04:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

::There is also the WP:UNDUE principle, which would suggest not putting so much emphasis on estimates that don't make sense. Kauffner (talk) 01:59, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

• I replaced the fantasy numbers with the South Korean estimate of 6-9 kilotons. For the 2006 and 2009 blasts, the yield estimates are from papers published in scientific journals. This type of estimate takes some time to produce, and neither paper was published until two years after the event. Of course, no one has written an equivalent paper on this blast yet. Kauffner (talk) 05:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
• Since most other nations (Except Norwegian source) are a party of six-party talks apart from German source, could it be possible that the relevant parties are trying to lower the yield in order to make North Korea's nuclear threat not that credible at all (And showed that the international efforts of embargoing NK works well since the DPRK's nuclear advancement was slower than any other nuclear armed states)? Even Korea Institute of Geosciences and Mineral Resources (South Korea source) estimated the yield as 7.7-7.8 kilotons which corresponds to Russian's surpass of 7kT mark means that South Korea Defense Ministry's 6kT - 9kT estimate is a political effort to report the yield below than the lower range in order to reduce the negative impacts to it's citizens.

:This is a conspiracy theory lacking evidence or credible basis. NPguy (talk) 17:30, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

• Since Korea Institute of Geosciences and Mineral Resources (South Korea source) estimates the yield at 7.7 ~ 7.8 kT, and that corresponds to Russian's "clearly surpassed 7kT yield" claim, I think it is only appropriate to revise the max yield from "6kT to 9 kT" to "7kT to 9kT" given that South Korean's official sources initially claimed 10kT yield and they revised to current 6kT ~ 9kT while to US sources revised upwards on the magnitude of the earthquake from 4.9 to 5.2. Hence, the "conspiracy theory" has it's merit and not purely based on anti-West / South / US sentiments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.124.50 (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

:This remains a conspiracy theory, based on imputed motivations rather than technical analysis. NPguy (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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