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Awkward and gawky Lincoln

Nikkimaria changed "Lincoln was described as 'awkward' and 'gawky' as a youth" to "In his youth, Lincoln was described as 'awkward' and 'gawky'." These have different meanings, because the description of Lincoln in the first might have been made after Lincoln's youth, whereas the description in the second was made during Lincoln's youth. Which was it? Burlingame's endnote 127 on page 771 tells us only that Polly Richardson Egnew was quoted in 1918, but it doesn't tell us when she described Lincoln. She knew him when he was a youth, but she might have been reminiscing later. In fact, that was apparently the case, so I have reverted that sentence (not the rest of the edit of which it was a part). [https://www.uis.edu/sites/default/files/inline-images/Notes-for-an-American-marriage-Burlingame.pdf Notes-for-an-American-marriage-Burlingame.pdf], at unnumbered page 5, states that "gawky" comes from "Polly Richardson Egnew’s recollections in J. Edward Murr, “Lincoln in Indiana,” Indiana Magazine of History 14 (1918): 57." Thus, these are her recollections, which Burlingame doesn't tell us in his Green Monster. Maurice Magnus (talk) 17:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

In writing the above, I overlooked that, although Egnew described Lincoln as "gawky," it was Elizabeth Wood who described him as "awkward." Burlingame (2008), p. 42. I have not researched when Wood said this, but, if she said it during Lincoln's youth, then "Lincoln was described as 'awkward' and 'gawky' as a youth" would remain accurate, because it is ambiguous as to when the description of Lincoln was made. It covers both Egnew's reminiscence and Wood's contemporaneous statement, if that's what it was. Maurice Magnus (talk) 17:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

moderate republican?

to whom are we doing work? 2601:47:4480:6B50:D85A:D2B0:C9D3:15E1 (talk) 02:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Not really sure what you're asking. Remsense 🌈 论 02:16, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

13th Amendment

The 13th Amendment was mentioned in the body of the article, in the section on Reconstruction. But that section did not say what it did, so I added that information. In the lede, to omit mention of the exception for crimes is to make a serious misstatement of what the 13th Amendment did. That exception proved historically of great importance, because it enabled white authorities in the South to arrest freedpeople for anything and everything (vagrancy, being unemployed, and so forth) and reinstate slavery. Maurice Magnus (talk) 10:33, 9 June 2025 (UTC)