Talk:Afghanistan#Selective quoting and falsification of sources by User:Jrkso
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Location and Ethnic groups
Afghanistan is geographically located in Central and West Asia, with cultural and historical ties to the Persianate world, the Middle East, and the Iranian Plateau.{{cite book |last=Frye |first=Richard N. |title=Greater Iran: A 20th Century Odyssey |publisher=Mazda Publishers |year=2005 |isbn=1568591772}} Some classifications place Afghanistan in South Asia, albeit such a perspective is largely a political and colonial invention that does not accurately reflect the country's cultural, linguistic, and historical affiliations.{{cite journal |last=Canfield |first=Robert L. |title=Afghanistan's Geopolitical Position and Ethnic Groups |journal=Journal of Asian Studies |volume=56 |issue=2 |year=1997 |pages=345–356}} Historically, Afghanistan was an integral part of Greater Iran and West Asia, maintaining centuries of interaction with the Arab world, Persia, and Mesopotamia.{{cite web |title=Afghanistan’s Persianate Heritage |url=https://iranicaonline.org/articles/afghanistan-viii-persian-literature |website=Encyclopaedia Iranica |access-date=2025-02-12}} Classifying Afghanistan under South Asia often stems from political bias rather than geographical or historical facts.
There are many more ethnic groups that have played an important role in Afghanistan's history that are often overlooked.
Afghan Arabs are the descendants of early Arab settlers, traders, and warriors who migrated during the Abbasid and Umayyad periods.{{cite web |title=Arabs in Afghanistan: A Study in Cultural Assimilation |url=https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02634939708400993 |website=Central Asian Survey |access-date=2025-02-12}} They primarily reside in northern and western Afghanistan, particularly in Kunduz, Balkh, and Herat. Although many Afghan Arabs have assimilated into Persian and Pashto-speaking communities, they retain linguistic and cultural influences from the Arabian Peninsula.
The Qizilbash community in Afghanistan traces its roots to Safavid Iran, with many migrating during the 16th and 17th centuries.{{cite book |last=McChesney |first=Robert D. |title=Four Central Asian Shrines: A Socio-Political History |publisher=Brill |year=2021 |isbn=9789004460173}} Originally part of the Safavid military elite, they later became influential in Afghan politics and administration, particularly in Kabul and Herat. Most Qizilbash speak Dari Persian and belong to the Twelver Shia sect.
The Bayats are an Oghuz Turkic-speaking Persian people with historical links to Greater Iran and Iraq.{{cite book |last=Floor |first=Willem |title=The Bayats: A Forgotten Tribe of Greater Iran |publisher=Mazda Publishers |year=2015 |isbn=9781568593179}} They settled in Afghanistan during the Mongol and Timurid periods and today reside in Herat, Kandahar, and northern Afghanistan. The Bayats have strong cultural affinities with Persian and Arab cultures.
The Farsiwan are Persian-speaking Afghans who have historically inhabited Herat, Farah, and Kandahar.{{cite journal |last=Yarshater |first=Ehsan |title=The Persianate Societies of Afghanistan |journal=Iranian Studies |volume=34 |issue=3 |year=2001 |pages=411–432}} Unlike Tajiks, Farsiwans have retained closer cultural ties to Iran and Mesopotamia. They are predominantly Shia Muslims, although some practice Sunni Islam with strong Sufi traditions.
Kurdish groups have had a presence in Afghanistan since various historical periods, including the Mongol invasions and the Afsharid dynasty.{{cite web |title=Afghan Kurd claims more than 350,000 Kurds live in Afghanistan |url=https://www.kurdistan24.net/en/story/391819/Afghan-Kurd-claims-more-than-350%2C000-Kurds-live-in-Afghanistan |website=Kurdistan24 |access-date=2025-02-12}} Estimates suggest that between 200,000 to over 300,000 Kurds live in Afghanistan today, primarily in urban areas such as Kabul, Herat, Mazar-i-Sharif, and Ghazni. Most Afghan Kurds are Sunni Muslims and have assimilated into Afghan society, often speaking Farsi(Dari) as their first language.
Why Bias and Political Narratives Should Not Influence Geography
Afghanistan’s classification under South Asia is largely based on political narratives and colonial-era perspectives. Using biased and political statements in defining a country’s geography:
Misrepresents History – It distorts Afghanistan’s deep-rooted ties to West Asia, the Middle East, and Greater Iran.
Ignores Cultural and Linguistic Evidence – Afghanistan shares more with Persianate, Mesopotamian, and West Asian civilizations than it does with South Asia.
Promotes Colonial Narratives – British and modern geopolitical frameworks have artificially reclassified Afghanistan without considering its actual historical and cultural reality. {{cite book |last=Vogelsang |first=Willem |title=The Afghans |publisher=Blackwell Publishing |year=2008 |isbn=9780631226520}}
By acknowledging Afghanistan’s true geographical location, we respect historical accuracy and cultural identity rather than reinforcing politically motivated classifications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perso 12 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
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Population
Hazaras are bigger than 9% please change it Sshamal (talk) 21:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
:Change it to what? It would have to be a figure from a recent reliable source, which you should also provide. Largoplazo (talk) 22:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
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