Talk:African Americans#Reverted recently added lead image

Please help me . As far as I understand "African Americans(AA)" means those "Americans(Citizens of USA)" who had or whose parents had either African citizenship ,or ancestry . Then why make AA= Black Americans(BA)? The term AA is ethnic ?or based on skin?colour or based on ancestry ?

There are "black skin colour people" outside Africa too .

So when we say AA why BA is automatically assumed. Example: "IF" a white south african citizen become usa citizen he will be AA but not BA . Similarly those from other continent who fortunately or unfortunately have black skin colour will be BA once become USA citizen even if they are not AA . Mike, the regular nose job (talk) 13:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

:Hi @Mike, the regular nose job. My understanding of the term African American, refers to decendants of enslaved people. Beyond that, I'm not sure. In UK it's generally Black British. This is because we have black people who originated from all over the world, especially the British colonies. I'm unsure what Americans use for white South Africans? Knitsey (talk) 14:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

::Yeah that's the problem.

::No disrespect to history of USA or its people or their struggles but the term AA and BA being used as interchangeable, which "I" believe is kinda dumb , you can't equal racial and ethnic optics , those are separate things or so I believe . Mike, the regular nose job (talk) 21:24, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

:that is not what african American means. If someone is from africa their specific country is mention , example nigerian American. African American is the name of a specific ethnic group whose legacy goes back 400 plus years in the states. Danfranc37 (talk) 05:53, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

::Is there any source or writing , you can point me to ? Mike, the regular nose job (talk) 08:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

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Request to add {{see also|African-American leftism|African-American socialism|Black anarchism|Black liberalism|Black populism}} under African Americans#Politics

116.14.127.63 (talk) 11:25, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

: That are a lot of links, but seeing how small this section is, I added them at your request. Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 15:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

It is asserted in the genetic section that "...Historians estimate that 58% of enslaved women in the US aged 15–30 years were sexually assaulted by their slave owners and other White men." The citation for this being a paper (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6167003/) which substantiates its assertion with another citation, this time from a vawnet.org pamphlet (https://vawnet.org/sites/default/files/materials/files/2016-09/AR_SVAAWomenRevised.pdf). Our 58% figure is credited to historical book, 'Rape and Race in the Nineteenth-Century South' by Diane Somerville in the pamphlet, which (after reading the introduction and first chapter) seems to be about how enslaved Black men were given due legal process in rape accusations by white women, despite popular perception. Given this, I think the 58% figure should be jettisoned or a better source should be found. Thoughts? DakiniSlayer (talk) 23:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:Very nice work tracing the number back! I will remove that sentence, without it the text still makes sense. Lova Falk (talk) 05:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Black American: Those that came to the US during enslavement (and their decedents), thus, they don’t historically know their ancestry, ie. exact location. Can be determined via dna tests but the culture and connection has been severed years ago.

African American- came to the US in the 1990s when there was an influx of Africans. These immigrants know where their grandparents are from.

It is just as important to distinguish these two groups as it is to distinguish Japanese from Chinese. Culturally they have no ties to each other. Itsemi (talk) 16:10, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

:Wikipedia will use the "African American- came to the US in the 1990s" definition when most universities and mainstream media do. Perhaps that will happen soon. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:17, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

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I request for where it says "African-American history began in the 16th century, with Africans sold to European slave traders and transported across the Atlantic to the Western Hemisphere" to be changed to "African-American history began in the 16th century, when African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors to European slave traders, who transported them across the Atlantic to the Western Hemisphere" please. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 14:03, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}} Thepharoah17 (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

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I also request for where it says "They had been captured directly by the slave traders in coastal raids, or sold by other West Africans" to be changed to "They had been captured directly by European slave traders in coastal raids, or sold by West African slave traders", please. 186.96.212.67 (talk) 21:27, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{done}} Day Creature (talk) 18:06, 27 June 2025 (UTC)