Talk:Air France Flight 447#Infobox Summary: Electric Boogaloo

Apokrif (talk) 00:28, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

:given that the acronym isn't used again in the article, it is redundant, and shouldn't be there. You could Wikilink 'horizontal stabilizer' instead. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:00, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Simplify the title to just simply “high-altitude stall” Wienliebe (talk) 19:04, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

:It is not the only high altitude stall in history, and even if it were, another one could happen in future. "High-altitude stall" generic, not specific to this flight. Elominius (talk) 15:16, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

How many NRSA pax were on AF 447? 173.233.115.235 (talk) 13:18, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

:National Research Service Awards? National Rivers and Streams Associations? I had to scroll down twice in my search results to figure out that you meant "Non-Revenue Space-Available" passengers. IAmNitpicking (talk) 11:49, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

I would like to point out the page in Italian on Air France flight 447, it is very rich in information, if you want to use it to find new information https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volo_Air_France_447 Mariadele60 (talk) 17:30, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Good morning, I would like to ask why the list of victims was not included in the article

Alphabetical list of victims{{cite news|access-date=28 February 2025 |title=Air France Flight 447 Victims Crash (1 June 2009)|url=https://it.findagrave.com/virtual-cemetery/1937730}}{{cite news|access-date=28 February 2025 |title=Monument aux victimes du vol Rio-Paris (2009)|url=https://www.appl-lachaise.net/monument-aux-victimes-du-vol-rio-paris-2009/}}:

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• Alazard Laëtitia France
• Alves Ivanovitch Verônica
• Amado Clara
• Anastácio Luis Roberto
• Andersen Kristian Berg
• Anidjar Serge
• Antunes Ceva Octavio Augusto
• Antunes Nazareth Mateus
• Antunes Nazareth Patricia
• Arendt Daniela
• Artiguenave Sandrine
• Artiguenave Stéphane
• Badre Schnabl Christine
• Badre Schnabl Philippe
• Bagus Stefan Martin Gerald
• Băjenaru Declerck Violeta
• Barbato Silvio
• Benčat Daniel
• Benotmane Abel’ Kader
• Bentaieb Megda
• Béroud Eric
• Betzler Valnizia
• Bjoroy Alexander
• Bonin Pierre Cédric
• Bonin Marx Perdaens Isabelle
• Boulleray Anne Marie
• Burnos Robert
• Busko Philippe
• Butler Aisling
• Canaletti Enzo
• Carraro Vanderleia
• Carrasco Christian
• Carrilho Junior Walter
• Chabanne Elise
• Chaves Schmidt Júlia
• Chem Corrêa Roberto
• Chem Mainieri Leticia
• Chem Mainieri Vera Dolores
• Chén Chìpíng (陳赤平)
• Chén Qìngwěi (陳慶偉)
• Clarkson Seba Luciana
• Clemes Brad
• Coakley Arthur
• Colombiès Messaud Maryline Lucie Elisabeth
• Cordioli Agostino
• Crolow Alexander
• Curty Ana Luisa
• Damasceno Chantal
• Dardengo Leonardo Veloso
• David Sébastien Henry
• Da Silva Filho João Marques
• De Acquino Juliana
• De Amorim Sônia Maria Esteves
• Deasy Jane
• Degli Esposti Claudia
• De Mello Carlos Eduardo Lopes
• De Mello Cotta Pires Bianca
• De Moraes Tadeu Dias
• De Oliveira da Silva Angela Cristina
• Desmots Laurence
• De Vivo Dominique
• Delerablée Pascal Georgés
• Dreyer Ronald
• Dreyfus Ana Carolina
• Dreyfus Pablo Gabriel
• Dubois Marc Gerald
• Dutilh Gilles Edouard Maurice
• Eccard Clara Sofie
• Eccard Carmen
• Eccard Regine
• Eccard Hannelore Pauline
• Eccard Rolf
• Eckholt Christian
• Elias Simone Jácomo
• Elmalem Sonia
• El Murr Bassam
• Faouzi Ahmed
• Faria Márcia Moscon
• Ferreira Sonia Regina
• Fonseca Lima Marcelle
• Furtado Kestler Izabela Maria
• Gagliano Lucas
• Gaignard Véronique Marie Christiane
• Gallasz József
• Gans Ines Michaela
• Gāo Xìng (高興)
• Gardner Graham
• Gergely Arnold
• Giroux Stéphane
• Gomes da Silva Jose Roberto
• Grimout Anne Madeleine Jeanne
• Gründhammer Maria
• Gueiros Antônio Augusto
• Guerineau Butet Sabrina Mireille
• Guerineau Olivier Frédéric
• Guillaumont Carole Louise Céline
• Guillot Noel Olivier Pierre
• Guittard Céline Marie Julia
• Gustafsson Helge
• Haddour Fouad
• Hall Thomas John Fullerton
• Harris Anne Camille
• Harris Michael
• Heine Erich Walter
• Hellhammer Claus Peter
• Hemme Hans
• Henry François Réne Claude
• Henriques Adriana Moreira
• Hermann Alain
• Hilbig Claus Frank
• Hilbig Fausel Iris Hilde
• Hochabaeff Isabelle Irma Adèle
• Hochabaeff Yvan Stéphane
• Hudec Michal
• Ivanov Maksim
• Jadir Silveira Hilton
• Jugueta Arden
• Kaulfuß Ralf
• Kersten Albert
• Khalifeh Hussein (Abou Karim)
• Kiselev Andrey
• Kock Moritz Peter
• Ku Hak Rim
• Laisné Marie France
• Lamaison Maxence
• Lamy Eric Cyrille
• Le Corvec Sophie
• Lenzi Giovanni Battista
• Lercher Georg
• Leybros Hélène Aurore
• Lǐ Míngwén (李明文)
• Linguet Pascal Jean Marie
• Lorgeré Ivan Pierre
• Lozouet Jean Claude Michel
• Lupp Dennis
• Marinho Nelson
• Markovic Zoran
• Marques José Gregório
• Marroig Nathalie Isabelle Daniele
• Martiner Georg
• Mateus Carlos Alberto
• Mendonça Camargo Marco Antonio
• Moholt Karsten
• Moholt Aleksander
• Mommayou Virginie Jeanne
• Monlevad Luis Claudio
• Monteiro Cédric
• Moreno Eduardo Cesar
• Moreno Marques Maria Teresa
• Muser Iris
• Necipoglu Fatma Ceren
• Negra Barrabeig Ana
• Neraud Biteau Aline
• Neraud Jérôme Daniel
• Neukamm Martin
• Notheisz Arnold
• Oliveira Gomes Marcelo Parente
• Orléans Bragança Pedro Luìs
• Ouakli Mourad
• Owondo Joseph
• Pasquet Aurélia Denise Marie
• Paulitsch Alexander Gianpiero
• Paus Christophe
• Pelajo Bruno
• Pellizzon Marcela
• Pereira Leite Leonardo
• Peretti Mattos Gustavo
• Peter Matthias
• Pezzoni Fabrice Patrice
• Pieraerts Christine Marie Caroline
• Pinet Isis Cosima Vinciane
• Poitrenaud Vincent Stéphane
• Porcaro Ferdinand
• Porcaro Sônia Maria
• Possamai Deise
• Pujol Carole
• Quesada Kohelher Audrey
• Rahal Laura
• Rainard Véronique
• Reichl Katja
• Ribierre Jeannette
• Robert David Bruno
• Salemkour Samir
• Schoumacker Stéphanie Marie Brigitte
• Shěn Zuòbīng (沈作兵)
• Soboll Adrian
• Sonnic Françoise Marie Pierre
• Souza José Rammel Amorim
• Suárez Montes Andrés Jaime
• Sūn Liányǒu (孫連友)
• Szarvas Rita
• Szarvas Buslig András
• Szweda Piotr
• Takvorian Catherine Yvonne
• Tawfik Sabrina
• Tazi Mouka Rajae
• Thill Guy Gustave
• Tighadouini Otman
• Toulliou Nicolas Yannich
• Treillou Marie José Jeanne Andree
• Tromparent Bruno
• Unger Lutz
• Unger Viviane Marie
• Vale Francisco Eudes
• Vale Maria Fatima
• Vale Paulo
• Valerius Nonato Andree
• Van Sluijs Adriana Francisca
• Vedovati Sebastien Christophe
• Vedovati Soulas Caroline Marie
• Vieira de Sa Suwellington
• Walls Eithne Mary Helen
• Warrior Neil Stuart
• Weller Renate
• Wilhelm Anne Marie Madeleine Irene
• Wilhelm Jean Luc
• Wimmer Harald Max
• Xiáng Xiǎo (小翔)
• Yapi Desmots Laurence
• Zandonai Rino
• Zerelli Hatem
• Zerelli Jassim
• Zerelli Sana
• Zerkane Sabrina
• Zeuthen Christiane Bøggild
• Zhāng Qìngbō (張慶波)
• Zhuó Jiā Chún (卓家純)
• Zortea Luigi

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79.16.210.210 (talk) 16:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:Please see WP:MEMORIAL. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:12, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::WP:MEMORIAL is right. Typically we might call out notable folks who die in tradgic incidents like this, but we wouldn't put in a list of everyone.

::Also, please see WP:BRD. Wikipedia is a very welcoming place, and I encourage you to make an account. That said, you should discuss your changes if someone reverts them before trying to add them again. NickCT (talk) 16:21, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

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The summary parameter in the infobox has been swung back and forth before on the talk page in this 2013 RfC and this 2016 discussion. As such, I would like to propose a potential change to the summary per the October 2024 RfC on the infobox and its subsequently updated documentation: {{tquote|Crashed after experiencing a high-altitude stall}}.

If anyone else has other summary change proposals, let me know here. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 21:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

:"Crashed into ocean after stalling caused by weather, inadequate training, airplane design and pilot error." Longer, but still succinct, accurate and more informative, imo. DonFB (talk) 07:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

::On the face of it, your summary is more informative, but how much can the reader actually learn from it? Apart from weather, the other three factors feature in such a large proportion of air accident that listing them doesn't really add much. That's a lot more words for little added value; we might as well stick to the proposed one-liner and waste less of the reader's time. -- Deeday-UK (talk) 08:53, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Disagree, respectfully. In fact, I would add one more factoid: "Crashed into ocean after high-altitude stall...." preserving that part of OP suggestion. DonFB (talk) 09:45, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

::::I've implemented this suggestion and removed the hidden note. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:13, 22 May 2025 (UTC)