Talk:Americana (1981 film)

This article is currently under construction. Please do not delete it as there is much expansion planned.--Ishtar456 (talk) 15:38, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

:I'm pretty much done now. I welcome any additional sources, categories, copy editing, etc. I'm hoping to have it classified at least a "B-Class".--Ishtar456 (talk) 22:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

The trailer for the movie is on youtube, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq0WGFdUIeQ here], where the tagline is provided "There's a dark horse in the American Dream." I thought this might deserve a small mention, though I scratched my head at where to place it (note WP:MOSFILM#Taglines in this regard).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:: That is not really the trailer for the movie, on youtube. There is no trailer to my knowledge. Although it appears to be an apt and professional trailer, it is actually the amateur work of a fan. Pretty good, huh? I already have it in the external links. I don't have anything, but the VHS cover, to reference the tagline, but that is in the infobox photo. The quote on his gravestone is actually from a theme to another movie that he wrote and performed, Sonny Boy, a bazaar horror movie in which Carradine appears in drag. Look for me to write that article this summer. I was in touch with the photographer of the gravestone, via email when she first shot the pic. But she never responded when I asked if i could use it on the wiki-bio. If the subject of Carradine interests you, I recently had his wiki-bio elevated to GA status (my only one so far) a recent [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ooKsOfcUYU documentary] on him just showed up on youtube that demonstrates the accuracies of my edits to that article.--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:Separate topic, but another, I-have-no-idea-where-to-place-it-and-don't-know-if-it-should-be-mentioned-at-all, but his gravestone, shown [http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/photos/image_20091207/tt_CarrIMG0005.jpg here] mentions films in his body of work, including Americana.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

::Not especially interested, but when I see good work, with someone engaged, and an article that is a stone's throw from going to GA, helping out if I can gives me pleasure.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for saying that. BTW, which stone do you you think I still have to throw? Do you think that it needs more references? I thought when I started that 12 would suit the topic. It now has 10 (thanks to you).--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

:I feel your pain. I have worked so hard on so many articles that can never be FAs because of the lack of references on the topic necessary to ever be seen as comprehensive. I think it's quite good and may be ready for GA right now. I can't think of any stone left unturned in looking for sources and continuing might just be trying to get blood from a stone. The writing is good; fairly NPOV; well-sourced and organized. Two things do come to mind though. First, I think it might be good to convert all the citations to use of citation templates ({{tl|cite news}} mostly) which not only is looked for by reviewers (though it's by no means mandatory) but does act to make the citation formatting consistent, so you kill two birds with one stone there. Second, The lead needs expansion to more thoroughly summarize the article. If I was doing the GA review, that would be my first comment; a proper lead is a pretty carved in stone requirement. Note: The use of stone idioms in the preceding comments, may be seen as the product of an altered mind, but I swear I was stone sober when I wrote it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, you know what they say..."a rolling stone gathers no moss"..or is it "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"...or is it repeated stone metaphors at least demonstrates constancy. You're a rock! --Ishtar456 (talk) 01:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

:Two other things. The article should probably be moved to Americana (film) (see WP:PRECISION), which is a redirect currently, and all the images need alt text.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:18, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

::I was going to continue working on fixing the citations, but I see you already did it. It looks great. I originally wanted the American (film) link, but I was not able to get it. I changed it to the link I made on the disambiguous redirect. I thought that would be the best way to deal with it since I have already link the article to several related articles. I don't understand what you mean by "alt text for the images". --Ishtar456 (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I'll take care of the move (which only an admin can do in any event; the redirect has two edits so it has to be deleted to move the article there. Don't worry about links in other articles; a redirect to this title will automatically be created on the move, and everywhere that you linked to the title with (1983 film) will work just fine. Sorry about not linking what I meant by "alt text": Wikipedia:Alternative text for images; it's for blind users and is now looked for by both GA and FA reviewers. I can take care of it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:14, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and nominated it. Thanks a million for all your help. I guess I owe you another barn star.--Ishtar456 (talk) 22:35, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

:Great, and you're welcome.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Your edits are fantastic! I could not have done this without you. BTW, are we going for GA or FA (tee, hee ;0)???--Ishtar456 (talk) 23:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

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