Talk:Andy Stanley

A sampling of [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Andy+Stanley%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=%22Andy+Stanley%22+church&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbs=nws:1,ar:1&source=lnt&sa=X&ei=H0VATdiWN8GBlAfcv8SLAw&ved=0CCgQpwUoCg&fp=1&cad=b media coverage]:

• {{cite news|title=Andy Stanley To Visit Calvary|url=http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=CO&s_site=charlotte&p_multi=CO&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0F244819CCE4C12D&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=The Charlotte Observer|date=21 October 1995}}
• {{cite news|title=Community of Faith: Pastor's book urges setting a destination|url=http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=AT&p_theme=at&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EADA4C4F637ADAD&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution|date=18 November 1999}}
• {{cite news|title=$40 million church 'office' set in Buckhead|url=http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=AT&p_theme=at&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=109EC8446F72AE60&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=The Atlanta Journal-Constitution|date=6 May 2005}}
• {{cite news|last=Jonsson|first=Patrik|title='Godcasting:' Love that new-time religion|url=http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2006-05-17-godcasting_x.htm|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=USA Today|date=17 May 2006}}
• {{cite news|last=Grossman|first=Cathy Lynn|title=Video parody riffs on megachurch modern worship|url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/religion/post/2010/05/christian-worship-parody-north-point-church/1|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=USA Today|date=12 May 2010}}
• {{cite news|title=Jakes, Caldwell, Wuerl join inaugural services|url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-01-16-inauguration-preachers_N.htm|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=USA Today|date=16 January 2009}}
• Stanley one of 2 evangelical ministers participating in "an interfaith National Prayer Service ... held in the National Cathedral to cap the [Obama] inauguration, featuring Roman Catholic, Jewish, Muslim and Hindu clergy, along with pastors from mainline Protestant, evangelical and Orthodox Christian traditions."
• {{cite news|title=The Best Question Ever by Andy Stanley|url=http://www.zdnetasia.com/downloads/mobile/the-best-question-ever-by-andy-stanley_sw-39791780.htm|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=ZDNet|date=22 February 2010}}
• {{cite news|last=Reed|first=Eric|title=Leader's Insight: Is Ministry Leadership Different?|url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/currenttrendscolumns/leadershipweekly/cln60327.html|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=Christianity Today|date=27 March 2006}}
• {{cite news|title=Leader's Insight: Get-It-Done Leadership|url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/currenttrendscolumns/leadershipweekly/cln70528.html|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=Christianity Today|date=28 May 2007}}
• {{cite news|last=Quinn|first=Christopher|title=Keeping the faith, in their way|url=http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/05/02/sons0502.html|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=The Atlanta Journal-Constitution|date=2 May 2009}}
• {{cite news|last=Poole|first=Shelia M.|title=Megachurches: Supersizing faith|url=http://www.ajc.com/lifestyle/megachurches-supersizing-faith-725857.html|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=The Atlanta Journal-Constitution |date=12 November 2010}}
• {{cite news|title=Salvation by satellite: Megachurches spin off congregations as leaders focus on size, salesmanship|url=http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=AT&p_theme=at&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=106A634034A56BBF&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=The Atlanta Journal-Constitution|date=28 November 2004}}
• {{cite news|last=Grossman|first=Cathy Lynn|title=When it comes to worship, does size count?|url=http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2010/09/church-megachurch-evangelical/1|accessdate=26 January 2011|newspaper=USA Today|date=14 September 2010}}
• Stanley started and currently leads North Point Community Church in Alpharetta, Georgia. With 24,000+ members, it ranked as the second largest church in the United States in 2010.

There are many more articles out there; this is just a sample.

I have omitted the [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_scoring=r&as_maxm=1&q=baptist+divorce+charles+%22Andy+Stanley%22&as_qdr=a&as_drrb=q&as_mind=27&as_minm=12&as_maxd=26&sa=N&tbs=nws:1,ar:1 numerous references] to his parents' very public marital problems into which he was dragged. The Rev. Charles Stanley, his father, served two terms as the President of the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention. Andy Stanley was an adult when this happened and made public statements on the issue; any material added to the article on that topic should be handled carefully with an eye to relevance and our Biographies of Living People Policy.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I just removed some recent additions (I missed them a few weeks ago), which are rather esoteric and primarily blog-sourced. Al Mohler's blog entry and Tim Challies' article are both self-published sources and not allowed in Biographies of Living Persons. Neither of these "controversies" (to use the term very loosely) is descriptive of Stanley's "beliefs" (a section created to house these), and thus also have issues with undue weight, along with notability.--Lyonscc (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

• Here is a non blog article regarding Andy Stanley and the homosexuality controversy that received a lot of attention: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/mayweb-only/andy-stanley-homosexuality.html Buytruth (talk) 18:19, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

::At this point, though, there are no verifiable sources with statements from Stanley affirming homosexuality as being congruent with Christian belief. The article in question is about Stanley using an illustration with a divorced gay man in it in which he (Stanley) focused on the divorce/adultery involved. The "controversy" (if one existed) was based on a non-statement (the perceived failure of Stanley to attack homosexual practice when it would have been easy to do so), and its inclusion in Wikipedia, at this point, would be Original Research, in which readers would be required to infer, from silence, that Stanley affirms homosexuality. Unless you've got a positive affirmation of homosexuality in a verifiable source, this really isn't notable, and attributing it to him as a belief in a new section about "beliefs" is just hearsay. With Biographies of Living Persons, there is a high bar for inclusion of controversial material, and a single opinion piece from a secondary source, critical of a non-statement doesn't really fit that bill.--Lyonscc (talk) 23:19, 7 December 2012 (UTC)