Talk:Arabs#Arab jews 2

Semitic is a proto-language or a family. The article should not reference a "Semitic language", because it is not an attested language. It is only known through historical reconstruction. 83.110.109.171 (talk) 09:24, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

:"Semitic language" is the ordinary way to characterize a language as a member of the Semitic language family, in the same way that we say English is an Indo-European language, Malagasy is an Austronesian language, etc. Largoplazo (talk) 16:22, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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First sentence of fourth paragraph states 'during the middle ages arabs fostered a vast arab union'. This should be changed to something such as 'After the emergence of Islam in the 7th century an unprecedented conquest established a vast Arab empire'. The term 'arab union' is highly anachronistic and the accompanying description fails to capture the reality of this remarkable and violent (see: fostered) event. Mdmagnitogorsk (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

:File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 09:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

The black and dark green colours are too similar, which could lead to a misconception thinking Brazil and Turkey are Arabic or something. I propose using a different colour scale for non-Arabic countries. Youprayteas ^{talk/contribs} 08:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

according to this, almost eerie map legend implying whole populations 'erased' and arabized (which does imply genetics, thus 'eerie', as in potentially irreversibly altered to 'foreigners' more likely preference). it'd be like, take italy today, with a long antique and roman history, was depicted today as much say 'russian' as very russia itself, despite the distance, and historical differences. wouldn't you at least wonder whose/if so agenda it served, to see it that way..

in the maps, morocco in the far west is depicted as arab as arabia to the far east, plus the article mentions ancestry as a continuum within the arab sphere.. well, if its indigenous ancestry, and not clear cut sudden to 'appear' at some point in history, would seem to matter.. 12.146.12.2 (talk) 12:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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Change:

"Arabs (Arabic: عَرَب, DIN 31635: ʿarab, Arabic: [ˈʕɑ.rɑb] ⓘ; sg. عَرَبِيٌّ‎, ʿarabiyyun, pronounced [ʕɑ.rɑˈbɪj.jʊn] ⓘ) are an ethnic group[b]"

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" Arabs (Arabic: عَرَب, DIN 31635: ʿarab, Arabic: [ˈʕɑ.rɑb] ⓘ; sg. عَرَبِيٌّ‎, ʿarabiyyun, pronounced [ʕɑ.rɑˈbɪj.jʊn] ⓘ) are a group that share language, culture and and frequently religion. Although there are many different genetic ancestry groups that are arabs, they are considered an ethnic group as a whole."

The reason being that arabs are not a racial ethnic group, although they share language and cultural background and most do share the same religion. According to the Upenn article of William Montgomery Watt and Pierre Cachia "The Arabs are not a distinct ethnic group, since there are both white Arabs and black arabs. [...] Nor is language a sufficient criterion of Arabness since there are many Arabic-speaking jews who are not normally called Arabs. The figure of a hundred million come from the populations of the states in the Arab League. For membership ln the Arab League the primary criterion appears to be language: but, despite the presence of Lebanon, which is half Christian, this tends to be coupled with the acceptance of Arab-Islamic culture."

And although ethnicity means shared culture in a broader spectrum than just biology, in coloquial language "ethnicity" is usually understood as the genetic ancestry of a group, or at least being the most in common part of that group. 186.206.152.129 (talk) 15:50, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:File:X mark.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Tlx|Edit extended-protected}} template. Skitash (talk) 15:52, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

Only minorities are listed right now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.173.182.83 (talk) 00:19, 19 June 2025 (UTC)