Talk:Ash Crimson#Merge

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More detail about the characters themselves and their in-game apearance

Deleted some comments that were pointless.

In any case it's apparant some people would like to see more about the game characters in game.

So I may as well add some details.

Moves and style, etc.

Zelphi 15:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Winner of KOF 2003?

I've inserted it on the Ash Crimson page, but according to the Kyo Kusanagi and Iori Yagami page, the ones who really defeated Mukai, thus winning the KOF 2003 tournament were Kyo, Iori and Chizuru. Am I reading it wrong or the new KOF protagonist didn't win a tournament in his saga? If he really won, feel free to delete this content. Also, if he is the main character, why he wasn't added to the Category:Computer and video game protagonists page? Slinn Thiefy 17:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)Slinn Thiefy

Ash's Japanese Name

Yes, so I was wondering if anyone knew how to pronounce Ash Crimson in Japanese. I honestly can not speak the language, so I was wondering if anyone might be able to help me. Unless, of course, it's pronounced the same in both languages.

アッシュ・クリムゾン 06:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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Reception section is NOT accurate

It mostly shows reaction to the character by western publications and western gamers. These groups of people have disdain for effeminate male characters. Ash Crimson's reception in Japan and Asian is much more positive. Can we add that?--98.213.47.36 (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

:Because this is English Wikipedia it is common for articles to use Western sources. Japanese sources are harder to obtain due to being all in that language and users being unable to translate them. Even more, they would have to be from reliable sources like Dengeki or Famitsu.Tintor2 (talk) 18:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Merge

This character article (and those like it) should likely be merged into the main characters list unless they somehow become the subject of dedicated commentary. The secondary sources used in this article refer to Crimson alongside other characters and never center on his own importance. And most of the refs in the article are from primary sources anyway. It can be trimmed down and built out in the main characters article/list. – czar 18:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

:Oppose There are a lot of sources focused entirely on why he is disliked by the players. There is even an interview with a video game publisher about it.Tintor2 (talk) 19:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

:After reading the article through, I feel I must also Oppose its merging. It reminds me somewhat of my work for the character article about Zero. I would happily consider this as a GA worth reading after the usual process has been followed through. And there does seem to be enough commentary around him to be notable. --ProtoDrake (talk) 09:48, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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:: You also should have noted that you were [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ProtoDrake&diff=674097361&oldid=673659743 specifically canvassed] to this discussion – czar 09:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

::: Sorry. --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:05, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

:::According to WP:Canvassing, "However, canvassing which is done with the intention of influencing the outcome of a discussion in a particular way is considered inappropriate. This is because it compromises the normal consensus decision-making process, and therefore is generally considered disruptive behavior." There was no consensus anywhere. Just two different opinions. I only requested a third opinion to see if the article should or shouldn't be merged.Tintor2 (talk) 18:05, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

:::: Come on. You already left a non-neutral message at WT:VG, which would be enough, and you reached out to a specific person (who knows why?) for their opinion without discussing it first. It's inappropriate and there's nothing to discuss. Hatting off-topic – czar 20:16, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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style="padding-left:0.6cm"|Although this is a dispute between more than two editors, I'll still address it and say that I also oppose a merge. The standalone article for this character as-is looks thorough enough to hold its own. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 02:39, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

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