Talk:Baltic Ice Lake

The article supposes at least two times when the ice moved north off Mt Billingen, instigating a sudden sheer torrent at this one point into the Western Sea. This is how it used to be sdescribed but most quaternary geologists in Sweden have turned to the view that the drop-off was less dramatic, taking the water through channels and small rivers westwards. /83.254.145.202 (talk) 11:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

:Agree, when I identified this article was poor in references, a scratch analysis suggests it has likely skipped an awful amount of academic controversy since the concept first arose about 1910 and also seems to be based on work done before 1980. I will see if the following references can improve it as at least I have walked on Baltic shorelines:

:*[https://www.academia.edu/download/85575886/03009480276026034620220506-1-knb4rn.pdf Andrén, T., Lindeberg, G. and Andrén, E., 2002. Evidence of the final drainage of the Baltic Ice Lake and the brackish phase of the Yoldia Sea in glacial varves from the Baltic Sea. Boreas, 31(3), pp.226-238.]

:*[https://www.academia.edu/download/40198896/Development_of_the_Baltic_Ice_Lake_in_ea20151120-29225-1bcg0uo.pdf Rosentau, A., Vassiljev, J., Hang, T., Saarse, L. and Kalm, V., 2009. Development of the Baltic Ice Lake in the eastern Baltic. Quaternary International, 206(1-2), pp.16-23]

:*[https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Veli-Pekka-Salonen-2/publication/229400916_Acoustic_evidence_of_a_Baltic_Ice_lake_drainage_debrite_in_the_northern_Baltic_Sea/links/5c1755c6a6fdcc494ffa2a2f/Acoustic-evidence-of-a-Baltic-Ice-lake-drainage-debrite-in-the-northern-Baltic-Sea.pdf Hyttinen, O., Kotilainen, A. and Salonen, V.P., 2011. Acoustic evidence of a Baltic Ice lake drainage debrite in the northern Baltic Sea. Marine Geology, 284(1-4), pp.139-148]

:*[https://www.academia.edu/download/40271341/Palaeoreconstruction_of_the_Baltic_Ice_L20151122-13635-1c12rv8.pdf Vassiljev, J., Saarse, L. and Rosentau, A., 2011. Palaeoreconstruction of the Baltic Ice Lake in the Eastern Baltic. The Baltic Sea Basin, pp.189-202. ]

:*[https://www.geologinenseura.fi/sites/geologinenseura.fi/files/bulletin_vol85_1_2013_vassiljev_saarse.pdf Vassiljev, J. and Saarse, L., 2013. Timing of the Baltic Ice Lake in the eastern Baltic. Bulletin of the Geological Society of Finland, 85.]

:*[https://geusbulletin.org/index.php/geusb/article/download/4710/10355 Bennike, O. and Jensen, J.B., 2013. A Baltic Ice Lake lowstand of latest Allerød age in the Arkona basin, southern Baltic Sea. GEUS Bulletin, 28, pp.17-20.]

:*[https://centaur.reading.ac.uk/77198/1/Muschitiello_et_al_merged.pdf Muschitiello, F., Lea, J.M., Greenwood, S.L., Nick, F.M., Brunnberg, L., MacLeod, A. and Wohlfarth, B., 2016. Timing of the first drainage of the Baltic Ice Lake synchronous with the onset of Greenland Stadial 1. Boreas, 45(2), pp.322-334.]

:*[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/am/pii/S0277379118303500 Kelly, A.L. and Passchier, S., 2018. A sub-millennial sediment record of ice-stream retreat and meltwater storage in the Baltic Ice Lake during the Bølling-Allerød interstadial. Quaternary Science Reviews, 198, pp.126-139]

:ChaseKiwi (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

::Latest references for first order sense check:

::*[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027737912100278X Rosentau, A., Klemann, V., Bennike, O., Steffen, H., Wehr, J., Latinović, M., Bagge, M., Ojala, A., Berglund, M., Becher, G.P. and Schoning, K., 2021. A Holocene relative sea-level database for the Baltic Sea. Quaternary Science Reviews, 266, p.107071]

::*[https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/15230430.2022.2155352 Alatarvas, R., Strand, K., Hyttinen, O. and Kotilainen, A., 2022. Sedimentary facies and clay mineralogy of the late Pleistocene Landsort Deep sediments, Baltic Sea—Implications for the Baltic Ice Lake development. Arctic, Antarctic, and Alpine Research, 54(1), pp.624-639.]

::*[https://esd.copernicus.org/articles/13/457/2022/esd-13-457-2022.html Meier, H.M., Kniebusch, M., Dieterich, C., Gröger, M., Zorita, E., Elmgren, R., Myrberg, K., Ahola, M.P., Bartosova, A., Bonsdorff, E. and Börgel, F., 2022. Climate change in the Baltic Sea region: a summary. Earth System Dynamics, 13(1), pp.457-593.]

::*[https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/bor.12547 Johnson, M.D., Öhrling, C., Bergström, A., Dreyer Isaksson, O. and Pizarro Rajala, E., 2022. Geomorphology and sedimentology of features formed at the outlet during the final drainage of the Baltic Ice Lake. Boreas, 51(1), pp.20-40.]

::*[https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9276/13/10/146 Ptak, M., Amnuaylojaroen, T., Huang, W., Wang, L. and Sojka, M., 2024. Role of Lake Morphometric and Environmental Drivers of Ice Cover Formation and Occurrence on Temperate Lakes: A Case Study from the Eastern Baltic Lakeland, Poland. Resources, 13(10), p.146.]

::ChaseKiwi (talk) 08:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC)