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| title2 = 'Round the Clock: Obama, Clinton Wiki-Warfare | author2 = Alison Stewart, Rachel Martin | date2 = April 3, 2008 | url2 = http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89333759&sc=emaf | org2 = The Bryant Park Project, NPR
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| title10 = Updating a Reference Site on the Fly | author10 = Noam Cohen | date10 = November 9, 2008 | url10 = http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/technology/internet/10link.html | org10 = The New York Times
| title11 = Obama Wikipedia page under possible security attack | author11 = Adrian Bridgwater | date11 = January 22, 2009 | url11 = http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,1001960o-2000458459b,00.htm | org11 = ZDNet
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New infobox portrait
The current official portrait used in the infobox is over a decade old, I propose a more recent image such as this one from 2023. Infobox portraits of living people should aim to show them closer to how they currently exist, rather than how they looked at their most important or best (that's for after they've died). File:Barack Obama 23.jpg Lord Beesus (talk) 06:43, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
:I agree with the sentiment. The image on offer is satisfactory for our purposes. Dolphin (t) 07:11, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
:I also agree with the sentiment. The submitted photo is fine for the purpose. Carlstak (talk) 17:55, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
:I oppose. Check the WP:LEADIMAGEs for his predecessors and successors, granted that W. and Clinton are arguably the comparable ones, as in alive and haven't been president for awhile. WP:OTHERCONTENT, but IMO relevant, Obama being the only president without the official portrait as leadimage would be weird. This pic can have a home elsewhere in the article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:15, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
::W. and Clinton should also definitely have more up to date lead images. Clinton (and Gore)'s are both over 30 years old and grossly misrepresentative of their current selves. I've put a similar motion up on the Clinton page. Wikimedia commons doesn't really have any decent more recent Gore photos though, otherwise I would be making the same suggestion there. Lord Beesus (talk) 05:16, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
:Disagree (at least on proposed image). The current image is satisfactory and is well suited to an encyclopedia. If there is another "official portrait"-quality image out there, then it's a good idea. But i personally don't think this image is an improvement in anything other than recency. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 20:54, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
:no, a biography of a president should retain the last official portrait. this is a head of state and we should present a level of formality beyond what one finds on the bio of an instagram model. ValarianB (talk) 18:45, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
::Bill Clinton's last official portrait is over 30 years old, it would be ridiculous to argue that it should be prioritised over a high-quality newer portrait just because it isn't official. Lord Beesus (talk) 13:32, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
:::Afaict, it's generally how we do it for these types of people, I guess it appears common sense/good enough to many Wikipedians. Consider Paul Keating and his successors. All the leadimages are either an official portrait or a pic from their tenure. The British PM:s are a sometimes a little different, but that seems to be because some of them gets new official portraits in their new job, like Theresa May is now a Lord Temporal. Yes, this is WP:OTHERCONTENT, but I'm trying to see a bigger picture here. I see no need to change this "convention". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:46, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
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Looking for information on Obama
Howdy, I was doing some research for an article and decided to check Barack Obama’s main Wikipedia entry for a full picture of his presidency. While going through the page, I noticed a few key topics were missing, even though they each have their own detailed Wikipedia articles. I found this a bit odd, considering similar topics are often summarized or at least mentioned in the entries for other presidents.
Here’s what I mean:
Solyndra Investigation
There doesn’t seem to be any mention of this at all in Obama’s page.
Main Article: Solyndra – Shutdown and investigation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra#Shutdown_and_investigation
Operation Fast and Furious
No mention here either, despite the size and impact of the scandal.
Main Article: ATF Gunwalking Scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal
IRS Targeting Controversy
This is another major event from Obama’s presidency that doesn’t seem to appear on the main page.
Main Article: IRS Targeting Controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy
NSA Mass Surveillance Disclosures
These disclosures were international news and tied directly to the administration. Still, no mention.
Main Article: Mass Surveillance in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States#2013_mass_surveillance_disclosures
I understand Wikipedia articles aim to be neutral and verifiable, and that not everything can be included. But these omissions stand out, especially when compared to how similar controversies are handled on the pages of other presidents.
Just wanted to point this out in case the goal is consistency across biographical entries. Appreciate all the hard work the editing community puts in.
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It was worthwhile to mention the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill in Barack Obamas main wikipedia entry whilst it also has it's own wikipedia entry, wouldn't these other issues be worthwhile to include too?
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(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Environmental_policy) WPisOpinion (talk) 01:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
:This is the tip-of-the-iceberg article, and heavily summarized, and with long sub-articles like Presidency of Barack Obama and Economic policy of the Barack Obama administration (not to mention Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories, but that's off-topic here). Taking your example Solyndra, it isn't mentioned in any of those, and my default assumption is that this indicates it's probably not WP:PROPORTIONate for this article. With a subject like a modern US president, there are easily available WP:RS for [https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/obama-the-fly-swatter-strikes-again-idUSBRE90N1BS/ a lot of stuff] that won't be mentioned in this article. You may or may not find this example of discussion interesting: Talk:Barack_Obama/Archive_83#Why_is_the_Kunduz_hospital_airstrike_not_mentioned_anywhere?
:Sticking to the Solyndra example, what text do you suggest including, in what section, cited to what sources? You can make WP:BOLD edits, but you should know how to cite sources correctly first. If you don't, WP:INTRODUCTION can help with that. Per Solyndra, "In 2009, the Obama administration co-signed $535 million in loans to Solyndra." It seems they tried to do something to help the company and failed. And it was used against him: "In 2011 and 2012, during Obama's re-election campaign, the political advocacy group Americans for Prosperity spent $8.4 million in swing states on television advertisements denouncing the loan guarantee.[3] The Wall Street Journal described the advertising campaign as "perhaps the biggest attack on Mr. Obama so far."" For the purpose of the Barack Obama article, it doesn't IMO seem to be much of a muchness. But looking for information, Solyndra is mentioned in for example these WP-articles: