Talk:Ben Shapiro#rfc B82D669

Even after the semi protection template that @EvergreenFir instated on this page, we still are getting deconstructive edits in regard to ‘Rapper’ being added to occupation. I’m wondering if invisible comments would help in this matter. What are everyone’s thoughts? @Cannolis Wanted to ping you as well in this discussion! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 14:27, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

:Can't hurt, though probably wouldn't help either, in my experience the kind of people that would add this sort of thing won't read those comments. The number of confirmed users that would(like the person you had to revert) is relatively small though, you could also wait and see if you get more of these edits before acting. Cannolis (talk) 20:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

::Roger that. Sounds like a plan, thank you very much. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 21:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

::My thoughts roughly match Cannolis'. In case it ever helps, I oppose adding "rapper" to the lead and any rapper categories to the article, per WP:BALANCE, WP:ROLEBIO, and WP:CATDEFINING, among other reasons. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Comment - His rapping "career" is not even established as notable enough to include. A youtube link is insufficient. We need reliable secondary sources covering this song to even include it. EvergreenFir (talk) 23:59, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

:I just added a reliable secondary source per Wikipedia:RSPSS to your revert . I too don’t believe by any means it merits being included as a career at all. That’s why I originally just wrote a simple sentence on the page stating the fact that it happened, which i believe should be included on this page in the capacity it is now. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 00:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

::A piece from one of the blogs at The Hill, which are not as reliable as the news articles from the site. I'm not sure that's enough to demonstrate that the content is notable (with a lowercase n, not talking about WP:N). Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:20, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

:::I simply grabbed from one of the approved sources per Wikipedia:RSPSS as stated above. Nonetheless I truly appreciate your input, value your opinion & went ahead and added another source Here. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 01:00, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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The article should mention Ben Shapiro's promotion of the anti-Semitic cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. The Charlie Kirk article mentions his promotion it, and cites this source that also mentions Ben Shapiro in the same sentence Charlie Kirk is mentioned. Other sources are [https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2376&context=honorstheses [1]], [https://jacobin.com/2022/08/ben-shapiro-is-wrong-about-socialism [2]], [https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-61227-5 [3]]. I think that the promotion of an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory is too significant to omit from this article. 24.126.11.127 (talk) 04:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

:Ben Shapiro is a practicing jew. This accusation of yours, if it was not serious and even illegal, would be even laughable.Ben Shapiro#cite note-182 148.205.56.10 (talk) 13:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

::The first sentence is irrelevant. The second is incomprehensible. Both Shapiro and Kirk have promoted the conspiracy theory, yet only Kirk's article mentions it. 24.126.12.140 (talk) 01:44, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

:Oppose. The mentioned article says the term "Cultural Marxism" has "been bandied about" by Mr Shapiro. Using the term is not enough. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 17:16, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

::It uses the term "bandied about" for Charlie Kirk as well, yet Charlie Kirk's article rightfully includes his promotion of it. Explicitly promoting an anti-semitic conspiracy should be included in an article even if it's just in a "bandied about" way according to one source. 24.126.11.223 (talk) 05:28, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

:your link for the cited source of Kirk's promotion is just Charlie Kirk's Wikipedia page? Can you link actual source. It seems like there might be overall consensus to not include this on Ben's page and might need to be looked at over on Charlie's page as well for removal. TomaHawk61 (talk) 21:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

:The sources, which do not seem reliable to use in the first place, don't establish that it is a theory Shapiro is "promoting." AstralNomad (talk) 04:07, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

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Bens Parents ger up in the suburbs of Chicago of Skokie and Northbrook, IL. The source is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H02PGXzBf50&t=310s. WikTikPik (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

: I don't think this is an important detail to add. Rainsage (talk)

Hi,

Since there is already a section on Bens views on Us-American and Israeli politics, I would like to suggest a section that collects all his views on European politics, consisting out of most of the countries in Europe and the politics of its economic union (EU,not all nations are part of it though). Could this be implemented? MantiInc (talk) 12:03, 13 February 2025 (UTC)