Talk:Benjamin D. Wood

Something strange is going on with the infobox here: the article says he was born and died in Texas, but the infobox says he was born in Massachusetts and dies in New York; the article says he attended Brownsville public schools, but the infobox says he attended "Roxbury Latin, Wesleyan, Harvard," none of which is mentioned anywhere in the text. Is the infobox a piece of subtle vandalism? What's going on? -Bryanrutherford0 (talk) 13:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

: He was born in Brownsville, Texas, according to his [https://www.flickr.com/photos/22738816@N07/25207598203/sizes/l U.S. World War II draft registration card.]

:The U.S. Social Security Death Index shows his birth was 10 Nov 1894 and death place as Westchester, New York. Corrected infobox accordingly.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:40, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

:Corrected infoBox to reflect Brownsville Area Schools.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:55, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

The citations needed tag is not necessary for the lead, as the reference is covered in the body of the text. Since the material is covered in the body and referenced, then a reference is not needed in the lead paragraph. It is customary not to have inline references in the lead.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:25, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

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• Cut-and paste from [https://books.google.com/books?id=MzYAF_GzaXsC&pg=PA48#v=onepage&q&f=false Baker 2006], "He believed in the idea that a person's ability to think was innate, rather than acquired" and more.
• Too close paraphrasing from [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4724039/ben-d-wood-bio/ Brownsville Herald] August 20, 1950
• Complete [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_D._Wood&diff=1137217995&oldid=1137178353 misrepresentation] from [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/117849397/experiments-with-typewriter-kids-prove/ Gettysburg Times], August 19, 1954.
• Another [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_D._Wood&diff=prev&oldid=1137275889 misrepresentation] from [https://archive.org/details/measuringwhatmat0000schw/page/12/mode/1up?view=theater Schwartz 2013]

Marking {{y}} at CCI; more than I can clean up. Removed [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_D._Wood&diff=1137282213&oldid=1137275889 most of Baker], which needs to be rewritten to avoid both cut-and-paste the too-close paraphrasing. Article should be nuked or re-written, everything else needs to be checked, I stopped there. There is surely more. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:34, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:{{u|Sammi Brie}} I'm not sure how much effort you want to spend in tracking down newspaper.com sources, when the others already in the article are plagiarized; unless the GAR reviewer intends to rewrite the whole article, it's kinda hopeless. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:35, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

::@SandyGeorgia I only did it this one time to help you out. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:40, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:::I know; I appreciate that. It's just so hard to figure out how to best allocate our resources. {{u|MER-C}} when you have a chance to look in here, see my summary above based on only four sources. This article is [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Benjamin_D._Wood 87% written by Coldwell], and here we have two editors putting in hours to clean it up. What is the cutoff for deciding to just stub an article rather than have to go through 22 diffs on the CCI and a couple dozen more sources? When do we give up? Surely we don't think we can rewrite all the hundreds of Coldwell articles. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:47, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

::::If they're the only substantial—as in this case—just revert it (if you can), else stub it or list it for presumptive deletion. No need to go through the individual diffs. MER-C 21:00, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:::::Thanks! I will wait to stub, then, according to the instructions per the AN consensus (that is, after the GAR process). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:::::{{u|Sammi Brie}} so perhaps we first check authorship, and if DC is the only substantial editor, our efforts are better spent elsewhere, as those that already have issues in the sources given can be stubbed after the GAR process. That will save you all the time in newspapers.com on those that appear headed for stubbing anyway. And I really do appreciate the help. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:14, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

This article had [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_D._Wood&oldid=709755430 issues from its first creation], was [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Benjamin_D._Wood 87% written by Coldwell], and should be probably be reduced to a stub. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:23, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

I can't see where the sources actually state he invented the multiple choice test at all, the content here seems to be over-interpreting what the sources do say, and there are scores of alternate descriptions to be found in scholarly sources, none of whom mention Wood. For example, [https://www.nssa.us/journals/pdf/NSS_Journal_36_2.pdf#page=37 National Social Science Journal] says: {{tq2|French psychologist Alfred Binet developed an early Intelligence Test around 1905, and in 1910, the first widely used standardized test, the Thorndike Handwriting Scale, was introduced in the U.S. public schools. This was followed in 1914 by the design of a multiple choice test by Frederick J. Kelly of the University of Kansas. In 1915, Lewis Terman of Stanford University developed the Stanford Binet Intelligence Test in an attempt to quantify intelligence (Pannkuk, 2004). In 1926, the Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) made its debut.}}

So, there was a multiple choice test in use in 1914, but this article claims Wood invented it in 1919. This article is a sham and I'm going to go ahead and stub it now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:53, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_D._Wood&diff=prev&oldid=1137297133 Partial removal]. The rest is still suspect, but can wait for the GAR reorganization. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:17, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:From [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benjamin_D._Wood&oldid=1137302196 this version], the sections I haven't yet checked/stubbed are Mid-life and Teaching (the other sections should be good). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:06, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

:More excessive close paraphrasing from [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/117876779/typewriter-now-recognized-as/ here], and almost every source I look at is misrepresented-- subtle, but enough to change the entire meaning of sources. Oddities like " He recommended that all college instructors teach some sort of course in aviation", when the source is specifically mentioning elementary school. And "He pointed out how medical techniques had improved over the last 100 years"; he "pointed out" nothing, he posed a hypothetical. Similar found throughout: an inability to paraphrase at all, interspersed with an inability to get it right when attempting to paraphrase. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

• {{cite book|last=Downey|first=Matthew T.|title=Ben D. Wood, Educational Reformer|url=https://www.google.com/books/edition/Ben_D_Wood/d-hXAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0|date= 1965|publisher=Educational Testing Service|oclc=187479042}}

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Ben was my great uncle. I have a great photo of him, likely taken by his first wife, Eleanor. It has never been digitized, but I could scan it. May I upload the photo, or do I need to list a source? 71.59.210.29 (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)