Talk:Beyoncé#Requested move 9

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There has been some disagreement over the infobox image, so there should be a discussion to decide on which one to use. It appears that there is a consensus to use one of the images in the Commons category at [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Beyonce_-_Tottenham_Hotspur_Stadium_-_Thursday_1st_June_2023]. The gallery above contains some choices that I have seen used, or that I think are otherwise suitable. Post your opinion below, and please add any potential candidates that I missed. — Goszei (talk) 01:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:C > A > G > D > F > B. An ideal image would have her facing the camera, have no obstruction from a microphone, and a smile or neutral expression instead of an open mouth. C is the closest to this ideal, in my opinion. A or G are a close second and third, with a preference for A due to a slightly favorable composition and expression. D has an unfavorable hand pose, and F isn't head-on. B is the worst on all counts, completely unflattering in my opinion. — Goszei (talk) 01:38, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:Out of these options, B or G are the only ones acceptable to me imo. But imo lighting wise her best picture is this one. It's the most flattering and has the best lighting on her face.

:{{Gallery|File:Beyonc%C3%A9_-_Tottenham_Hotspur_Stadium_-_1st_June_2023_(2_of_118)_(52946288505)_(slightly_cropped).jpg}} PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 14:22, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

:What do we think of this one? Facing the camera, unobscured, and more flattering than the other options in my opinion.

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:– Breaktheicees (talk) 15:27, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

::I love this one! Preferably the second option, I feel like the crop is just right and just flattering enough for her. Also the outfit that she has wearing here is very iconic and it screams Renaissance tour PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 05:01, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

::I support this one as well. — Goszei (talk) 03:37, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::Beyoncé's face is at a pretty unflattering angle in this picture, but otherwise there's no issues with it. I personally prefer G as it is at a straight and flattering angle, and has a neutral facial expression. TenthAvenueFreezeOut (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Breaktheicees Nothing against you all, but this image is a hate crime. Lol Lililolol (talk) 21:04, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:Favourites are A and G. I very much dislike B due to the dancers around her (they're distracting and clutter the image, subjects should be alone per MOS:IMAGEQUALITY) and dislike this one due to the low quality. These were ironically the two that editors would continuously reinstate for whatever reason.

:G's background is admittedly busy but it does show the entirety of the face unlike A. I would be happy with either, or indeed any image other than the two I've raised problems with. Miklogfeather (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

::The gold dress images are not good - they have been cropped from a much wider shot and as a result, they have a hazy, low resolution look. Not to mention one of her eyes looks more awkwardly closed than the other when thumbnailed. I think any of the other proposed options above (none of which I have a specific preference for compared to each other) are infinitely better. Feel free to continue the discussion, but as someone with a photographer in the family, I cringe at the current selection compared to the other options that are available. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 20:18, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Y2kcrazyjoker4}} keep in mind that every other selection was also cropped from a much wider shot too. however, i would have to agree that A and G are both much better than the current selections since they are slightly less hazier. 750h+ 08:20, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

::::Right, I realize all the suggested options were cropped but some images were just better suited for it than others. I would be happy with A or D - in the interest of stating a specific option, I would say A. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:43, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::i would personally vote for a change to A since it is much more appealing to look at than the current images 750h+ 01:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

An editor by the name of {{u|Everm4e}} is consistently trying to add back an completely unneeded part of information from the Early life section relating to Beyonce's ancestry. I am trying to remove it because most of these people aren't notable at all (WP:BLPNAME). I was happy to keep a bit of to keep a bit of her ancestry in the article, but no, seems that per this editor we need to keep this gigantic paragraph of information in this already far too long article (14,000 words) in the article because of "its factual basis and relevance" (despite it not be relating to Beyonce's early life, which is what the section is supposed to be about). So, what do you editors think of this? 750h+ 02:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:Additionally, it was also recommended in the Good article reassessment by {{u|SNUGGUMS}} that the 'early life' section "goes into excessive details about heritage. We could just stick to a general summary where her ancestors came from, and maybe mention some relatives outside of her sister and their parents who have articles." 750h+ 02:18, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

::You're misusing WP:BLPNAME when that doesn't apply to relatives who are deceased. It also shouldn't be treated as a free pass to remove details that one personally doesn't like seeing. The more relevant reason to remove is actually because of not relating to Ms. Knowles's early life. This isn't supposed to be a page on her extended ancestors per WP:NOTGENEALOGY. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Hello. I believe including Beyoncé’s ancestral connection to Joseph Broussard is appropriate and aligns with Wikipedia’s content standards. Joseph Broussard is a notable historical figure, as evidenced by his dedicated article and his clear fulfillment of WP:N criteria, which require significant coverage in reliable independent secondary sources. The genealogical link between Beyoncé and Broussard has been documented by multiple reliable sources and satisfies WP:V. Beyoncé’s Creole heritage and specifically the influence of her French-speaking grandparents also constitutes a significant aspect of her early years and cultural identity. This provides relevant context for understanding her background, which has definitely played a role in shaping her public persona and career. While the section could certainly be refined for conciseness, its inclusion seems justified given its relevance and the public interest surrounding these individuals. Everm4e (talk) 10:42, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Everm4e}} the point isn't that the section is notable through verifiabilty, it's that it's not supposed to be included in the section since the section is supposed to be about the artist's early life, not her ancestry. also it's still far too much detail. 750h+ 11:19, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for reverting the inaccurate information I previously made a request about {{u|750h+}}. I'm not sure if you're responsible for adding this sentence or not but since you're actively editing right now, please remove or change "In June 2007, Beyoncé and Jay-Z announced their engagement" as this notoriously private couple certainly did not make an announcement about being engaged during this time frame. Bey waited until 2013 to inform the public that Jay-Z had proposed to her in Paris on his 38th birthday, December 4, 2007.

You guys did her dirty. Her old image is more appropriate and less scary than the current one. Can we please change it back?

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:i’d have to agree, the old image before the current one is by far more flattering than the current. i don’t think we should use the much older one since it’s already been used in the article 750h+ 00:47, 24 May 2025 (UTC)