Talk:CITV#Requested move 2 September 2023

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86.3.54.189 (talk) 14:16, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

citv has closed down

:File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The CITV channel closed down, a CITV block still exists. -- AxG / ✉  15:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I think that the list of former programming should be split into a separate article called List of programmes broadcast by CITV. What are other editors views? Dwanyewest (talk) 18:08, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

:Seems immanently sensible to me Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:31, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

::I don't object, but it's not that long or detailed, either. If the entries were longer (e.g., ALF{{dummy ref}} → "ALF{{dummy ref}} (1986–1990), an American sitcom about a friendly alien creature living with a middle-class family while hiding from alien hunters"), then it might take up too much room on the page and I would support a split. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

:::Split if the relevant content is expanded. I would lean toward not splitting it unless that detail-expansion were done. The list is presently concise, and having it in one article is more maintainable and arguably more convenient at least for a particular class of user (ones familiar with the children's TV shows). I guess the counter-argument is that if it split out and expanded in the way WhatamIdoing outlines, it would serve more users with clearer information, at the cost of the minor inconvenience of having to click another link. I don't think it would be a good idea to either do that content expansion {{lang|la|in situ}} within this article, nor split to a side article without doing that expansion, since in the former case the present article would be cluttered, and in the latter we'd have a miserable stub someone would just want to merge back into the main article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  23:19, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

:::The entries don't really need extra detail like descriptions, they link to their own articles for that. The section is not long enough for a split, but I'm sure more entries could be added to the list. The article currently only has 25 kB of "readable prose size" so is not long enough for a WP:SIZESPLIT. Indagate (talk) 16:12, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

:Split, add years, and keep them alphabetical but sort them into decade headings when they were first broadcast. Eg.

:*1980s Shows which were first broadcast in the 1980s:

:*1990s Shows which were first broadcast in the 1990s:

:*2000s Shows which were first broadcast in the 2000s:

:*2010s Shows which were first broadcast in the 2010s:

:*2020s Shows which were first broadcast in the 2020s:

:If extra info is needed next to each entry, then I suggest any co-production countries and networks which were involved in each production, as just like today, CBBC and CITV have quite a lot of co-productions with networks in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. Eg.

:Wikipedia (2001-present) - A co-production with the Jim Henson Company in the USA. Danstarr69 (talk) 10:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Move it to its own page its far to full here however Im surprised this is allowed but not the monthly Presenters?--Crazyseiko (talk) 17:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Indagate has reinstated the CITC programme list, even after being told was told then delated for non compliance. and has failed to understand Clearly violates WP:NOTTVGUIDE,

{{ping|Wcquidditch}}, {{ping|RunningTiger123}}m, {{ping|TimothyBlue}} can you help? Crazyseiko (talk) 17:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Reply: {{reply to|Indagate}}, the info you restored fails on multiple levels including Wikipedia is not a TVGUIDE and WP:V, as it is unsourced. If there is notable original programming that doesn't violate WP:NOTTVGUIDE and can be properly sourced, you can discuss it here and gain WP:CONSENSUS for the program to be included.  // Timothy :: talk  19:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
• My !vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of programmes broadcast by CITV was based on WP:TNT; I felt that original or first-run shows were reasonable for inclusion but syndicated reruns were not, and it was not feasible to separate the two. However, I somewhat regret my !vote because it seems many similar articles (such as those listed in Template:List of television programs by region) include both original and acquired programming, meaning the CITV list fits within the status quo. I personally think acquired programming should be omitted from such lists, but it would be better to establish that at a wider discussion. I do not think that WP:NOTTVGUIDE is the correct policy to cite. That policy discusses electronic program guides, which list the times every episode of every show airs at; there is a significant difference between listing a show as a single entry and listing every single time that show aired on a given network. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
• If that is case only the following ( see BELOW) could be included as they were commissioned by CITV: However the list is so filled with so much radon crap, What even worse is the list inlcudes, duplicate, stuff that NEVER aired on CITV US sitcom like Alf, Blinky Bill was on BBC1.. The Charming's was on TVAM. So much stuff had nothing to do with CITV. The list has grown Arm and legs and is worthless, and you couldn't be trusted. Personnel I would rather have the monthly presenters list back on this page before that programmeing list but that was kicked off for the same reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazyseiko (talk • contribs) 07:50, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
• Reply: The list should contain original programming (with references meeting WP:V) or shows that have been historical significance to CITV (with references meeting WP:V); this should not be a directory of every show that has been on CITV. NOTTVGUIDE is clear, articles should not be program guides, but may mention major shows that are related to the station, the shows should be historically significant to the station with references meeting WP:V.

:I know people sometimes get upset regarding this but Wikipedia is not a programing guide. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TimothyBlue (talk • contribs) 08:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

• Reply I can't disagree with what your saying, The below list is pretty much upper correct details that were paid for and created for CITV. The original list is dog dinner filled with errors yet no one was checking that to make sure it was of a decent standard.. If say historical significance. Bad Influence!, Children's Ward, Dangermouse, Dramarama, Fun House, Emu's TV programmes, How 2 ,Knightmare,Sooty & Co., T-Bag, Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends, Wolf It, ZZZap! Would be the main candidates. --Crazyseiko (talk) 16:06, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
• :could we bring it back? I want to add the Shows on it. 2A02:8084:EA4:2B80:5FD:CFFC:C780:BB0E (talk) 13:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

list here for REF only which has been cut down as or the above discussion.:

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'* The Adventures of Captain Pugwash

• The Adventures of Portland Bill
• Alias the Jester
• The All Electric Amusement Arcade
• Allsorts/Gigglish Allsorts
• Alphabet Castle
• The Animal Shelf
• Art Attack{{Cite web|url=https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-12-18/citv-celebrates-30th-anniversary-with-a-weekend-of-classic-childrens-programmes/|title=CITV celebrates 30th anniversary with a weekend of classic children's programmes - Radio Times|date=2 October 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181002031010/https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-12-18/citv-celebrates-30th-anniversary-with-a-weekend-of-classic-childrens-programmes/ |archive-date=2 October 2018 }}
• Astro Farm
• Aubrey
• Avenger Penguins{{Cite web|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/tv-battle-for-children-begins-broadcasters-reveal-ratings-weapons-1460745.html|title=TV battle for children begins: Broadcasters reveal ratings weapons|date=12 August 1993|website=The Independent|accessdate=2 January 2024}}
• Bad Influence!{{cite web |author=James Osborne |url=http://www.bad-influence.co.uk/presenters.htm |title=Violet Berlin, Andy Crane, et al. |publisher=Bad Influence! |access-date=14 September 2009 |archive-date=23 September 2015 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150923181615/http://www.bad-influence.co.uk/presenters.htm |url-status=dead }}
• Bangers and Mash{{Cite web|url=https://www.radiotimes.com/audio/from-in-sickness-and-in-health-to-crackerjack-chas-and-daves-greatest-tv-moments/|title=From In Sickness and in Health to Crackerjack - Chas and Dave's greatest TV moments|website=Radio Times|accessdate=2 January 2024}}
• Back to the '50s
• The Baskervilles
• Bernard's Watch
• Bertie the Bat
• The Big Bang (1996–2004)
• The Blunders
• Bookaboo{{Cite web|url=https://kidscreen.com/2012/07/09/third-cycle-of-this-is-franchise-and-canadian-bookaboo-series-in-the-works/|title=Third cycle of This is… and Canadian Bookaboo series in the works|accessdate=2 January 2024}}
• Brilliant Creatures
• But Can You Do It on TV
• Button Moon
• Captain Mack
• Captain Zed and the Zee Zone
• The Caribou Kitchen
• Children's Ward
• Chocky{{Cite web|url=https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1980s/chocky/ |title=Chocky/Chocky's Children/Chocky's Challenge - Nostalgia Central |date=23 June 2014 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171015232212/https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1980s/chocky/|archive-date=15 October 2017}}
• Count Duckula
• Dangermouse
• Don't Eat the Neighbours{{Cite web|url=https://kidscreen.com/2002/02/01/teenmerch-20020201/|title=Brit licensors leverage teen merch appeal for kids TV series|accessdate=2 January 2024}}
• Dramarama
• The Dreamstone{{cite web | url=https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/90s-cartoon-the-dreamstone-more-than-just-a-cracking-theme-song/ | title=90s cartoon the Dreamstone: More than just a cracking theme song | date=27 November 2019 }}
• Dream Street
• Engie Benjy
• Emu's TV programmes{{Cite web|url=https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/citv-orders-more-emu/5002039.article|title=CITV orders more Emu|first=Robin|last=Parker2009-06-02T09:48:00|website=Broadcast}}
• Eye of the Storm{{Cite web|url=https://www.memorabletv.com/tv/eye-of-the-storm-itv-1992/|title=Eye Of The Storm (ITV 1992, Bill Nighy, Cordelia Bugeja)|date=22 January 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200808090036/https://www.memorabletv.com/tv/eye-of-the-storm-itv-1992/|archive-date=8 August 2020}}
• The Famous Five{{Cite web|url=https://kidscreen.com/2023/06/26/bbc-to-re-adapt-the-famous-five/|title=BBC to re-adapt The Famous Five|accessdate=2 January 2024}}
• Finders Keepers
• Fraggle Rock
• Fun House
• Fantomcat (1995–1996)
• The Foxbusters (1999–2003)
• Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids{{Cite web|url=https://www.awn.com/news/citv-renews-grizzly-tales-gruesome-kids|title=CiTV Renews Grizzly Tales For Gruesome Kids|website=Animation World Network}}
• Horrid Henry{{Cite news|url=https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/mar/07/itv.television|title=CITV ends commissioning freeze|first=Tara|last=Conlan|date=7 March 2008|newspaper=The Guardian}}
• The Gemini Factor (1987)
• Get Wet (1997–1998)
• The Ghost of Faffner Hall (1989)
• The Giblet Boys (2005–2015)
• The Giddy Game Show (1985–1987)
• Gladiators: Train to Win{{Cite web|url=https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/tv/gladiators-host-bradley-walshs-25m-28483736|title=Bradley Walsh's £2.5m luxury home he shares with wife and son|first1=Susan|last1=Knox|first2=Aaliyah|last2=Rugg|date=20 January 2024|website=Liverpool Echo|accessdate=4 February 2024}} (1995–1998)
• Glen Murphy's Mob (1982–1985)
• Grim Tales (1989–1991)
• Grizzly Tales for Gruesome Kids{{Cite web|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/citv-art-attack-grizzly-tales-gruesome-kids-b2403851.html|title=Farewell to CITV – the weirder side of British children's TV | Christopher R Moore|date=2 September 2023|website=The Independent}} (2000–2016)
• Grotbags (1991–1993)
• How 2
• Henry's Leg (1986)
• Hercules (1999–2003)
• Hilltop Hospital
• Horrible Histories
• Horrid Henry{{Cite web|url=https://kidscreen.com/2014/02/03/citv-commissions-fourth-season-of-horrid-henry/|title=CiTV commissions fourth season of Horrid Henry|accessdate=4 February 2024}} (2006-2019)
• Hot Dog
• Hotel Transylvania: The Series (2017–2023)
• How 2 (1989-2006)
• How Dare You
• Hurricanes
• Huxley Pig
• It's a Mystery (renamed Mystery in 2002)
• James the Cat
• Jamie and the Magic Torch
• Jay's World
• Jellikins
• Johnny Ball Reveals All
• JoJo's Circus (2005–2006)
• Josie Smith
• King Arthur's Disasters{{cite web | url=https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/king-arthurs-disasters-return-to-citv/1025095.article | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200805193857/https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/king-arthurs-disasters-return-to-citv/1025095.article | archive-date=5 August 2020 | title=King Arthur's disasters return to CITV }}
• Kipper (1997–2006)
• Knight School (1997–1998){{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/k/knightschool_7774060.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy Guide - Knight School|date=26 October 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041026133557/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/k/knightschool_7774060.shtml |archive-date=26 October 2004}}
• Knightmare (1987–1994)
• Krankies Television{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/k/krankiestelevisi_1299001823.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy Guide - Krankies Television|date=13 December 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041213065007/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/k/krankiestelevisi_1299001823.shtml |archive-date=13 December 2004}}
• Lavender Castle (1999–2000)
• Mad For It (1998–2000)
• Meeow!
• Meg and Mog (2003)
• Mega Mick (2012–2013)
• Megamania (1991–1992)
• Molly's Gang
• Mopatop's Shop (1999–2003, 2006–2009){{Cite web|url=https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/citv-ups-mopatops-commission-for-every-day-outing/1192363.article|title=CITV UPS MOPATOP'S COMMISSION FOR EVERY DAY OUTING|website=Broadcast|accessdate=6 January 2024}}
• Mike and Angelo (1989–2000){{Cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/m/mikeangelo_7774280.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy Guide - Mike & Angelo|date=2 November 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041102210954/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/m/mikeangelo_7774280.shtml |archive-date=2 November 2004 }}
• Mr. Bean: The Animated Series{{Cite web|url=https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a551236/mr-bean-animated-series-to-air-on-citv/|title=Mr Bean animated series to air on CITV|date=14 February 2014|website=Digital Spy}}
• Name That Toon
• Nellie the Elephant (1990)
• New Captain Scarlet
• The New Worst Witch (2005–2006)
• Palace Hill{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/p/palacehill_1299002458.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy Guide - Palace Hill|date=4 October 2003|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20031004133941/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/p/palacehill_1299002458.shtml |archive-date=4 October 2003}}
• Phoenix Hall{{cite web|title=Phoenix Hall (Original)|url=https://collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web/Details/ChoiceFilmWorks/150789461|website=BFI|access-date=May 25, 2023}}
• Playbox
• Press Gang
• Puddle Lane
• The Raggy Dolls
• Rainbow
• The Ratties (1987–1993)
• Razzmatazz
• The Riddlers{{Cite web|url=https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/23831308.uk-popular-forgotten-kids-tv-shows-80s-90s/|title=Look: Nine kids TV shows that will transport you back to your childhood|date=8 October 2023|website=South Wales Argus|accessdate=31 January 2024}}
• Ripley and Scuff (2002–2003)
• Rocky and the Dodos (1998–1999)
• Rod 'n' Emu (1991)
• Rod, Jane and Freddy (1981–1991)
• Rolf's Cartoon Club{{Cite web|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/rolf-harris-dead-career-timeline-prison-b2344248.html|title=Disgraced entertainer Rolf Harris's rise and fall|date=23 May 2023|website=The Independent}} (1989–1993)
• Rosie and Jim (September 1990–July 2004)
• Round the Bend{{Cite news|url=https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/sep/01/from-fun-house-to-mr-majeika-the-best-shows-citv-ever-made-before-closing-forever|title=From Fun House to Mr Majeika: the best shows CITV ever made – before closing for ever|first=Stuart|last=Heritage|date=1 September 2023|newspaper=The Guardian}}
• Rosie and Jim
• Rubbish, King of the Jumble (1992–1994)
• Rupert (1994–1999, 2003, 2005–2006)
• Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century
• The Singing Kettle (1995-2001)
• The Slow Norris
• Snug and Cozi (1996–1997){{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/s/snugandcozi_7775895.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy Guide - Snug And Cozi|date=5 December 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041205092404/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/s/snugandcozi_7775895.shtml |archive-date=5 December 2004}}
• The Sooty Show
• Sooty 2001-2004
• Sooty 2011
• Sooty & Co.
• Sooty Heights
• Sooty's Amazing Adventures (1996–1997)
• The Sooty Show
• Spatz{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/s/spatz_1299002927.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy Guide - Spatz|date=29 January 2005|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050129111315/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/s/spatz_1299002927.shtml |archive-date=29 January 2005}}
• Splash
• Spooks of Bottle Bay (1993–1995)
• Stanley (2003–2008)
• Stanley's Dragon
• T-Bag (1985–1992, 2013)
• Thunderbirds Are Go{{Cite web|url=https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/top10facts/937060/Thunderbirds-Are-Go-news-series-ITV|title=Thunderbirds: Top 10 facts to celebrate the new series|first=William|last=Hartston|date=26 March 2018|website=Express.co.uk}}
• Timbuctoo
• Timmy Towers{{cite web|url=http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/multi-platform/news/brilliant-wins-citv-timmy-towers-series-commission/1188773.article |title=Brilliant Wins Citv Timmy Towers Series Commission | News | Broadcast |publisher=Broadcastnow.co.uk |date=2000-01-28 |accessdate=2012-05-25}}
• Telebugs (1986–1987)
• Terror Towers (1994–1996)
• Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends (1984–1992, 2003–2005)
• Thumbs Up (1997)
• Tickety Boo (1997)
• Tickle on the Tum (1984–1988)
• Timbuctoo (1998–2000)
• Time Riders{{Cite web |date=2008-06-06 |title=The UK Sci-Fi TV Book Guide: Time Riders by Jim Eldridge |url=http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.seymour1/ukbookguide/Series/TimeRiders.html |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080606000305/http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.seymour1/ukbookguide/Series/TimeRiders.html |archive-date=2008-06-06 |access-date=2023-10-19 |website=The UK Sci-Fi TV Book Guide}}
• Titch (1997–2002)
• Tom and Vicky (1998–2007)
• The Tomorrow People
• ToonMarty{{cite web|url=http://tbivision.com/news/2017/08/citv-picks-toonmarty/782352/|title=CITV picks up ToonMarty - TBI Vision - Page 782352|website=tbivision.com|access-date=7 February 2018}}
• Top Ten of Everything (1998–2000)
• Topsy and Tim
• Tots TV{{Cite book|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=K8erMI3-0xIC&dq=Tots+tv+citv&pg=PA115|title=Marketing Briefs: A Revision and Study Guide|first=Sally|last=Dibb|date=21 August 2012|publisher=Routledge|isbn=978-1-136-01665-3 |via=Google Books}} (1993–1998)
• Toucan Tecs (1990)
• Towser (1984–1988)
• The Trap Door (1986–1987)
• The Treacle People (1995)
• Tricky TV (2005–2010; reran until 2015)
• Truckers (1992)
• Tube Mice (1988)
• TUGS (1989)
• Turtle Island
• Tutenstein (2004-2005)
• Twister (2001)
• Upstairs, Downstairs Bears
• Victor and Hugo
• Welcome to Orty Fou
• What About Mimi? (2003–2004){{Cite web|url=https://www.awn.com/news/decode-lands-citv-deal-mimi|title=DECODE Lands CiTV Deal For Mimi|website=Animation World Network}}
• What-a-Mess (1990)
• The Wind in the Willows (1984–1987)

'* Wizadora

• Wolf It (1993–1996)
• Wolves, Witches and Giants (1995–2016)
• The Worst Witch (1998–2001){{Cite web|url=https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/reasons-well-miss-citv/|title=15 Reasons We'll Miss CITV|first=Laura|last=Vickers-Green|date=1 September 2023|website=Den of Geek|accessdate=31 January 2024}}
• Woof! (1988–1997)
• The Wombles{{cite web | url=https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/citv-secures-the-wombles-until-at-least-2001/1212298.article | title=Citv Secures the Wombles Until at Least 2001 }}{{cite web | url=https://www.skwigly.co.uk/the-wombles-50-years-ivor-woods-classic-series/ | title=Remembering the Wombles: 50 Years of Ivor Wood's Classic Series | date=15 February 2023 }}
• Your Mother Wouldn't Like It{{Cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/y/yourmotherwouldn_1299003474.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy - Guide - Your Mother Wouldn't Like It|date=30 December 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041230085525/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/y/yourmotherwouldn_1299003474.shtml |archive-date=30 December 2004 }}
• Zig and Zag (1998){{Cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/z/zigandzagshowthe_7777170.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy - Guide - The Zig And Zag Show|date=17 December 2004|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041217193849/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/z/zigandzagshowthe_7777170.shtml |archive-date=17 December 2004 }}
• ZZZap! (1993–2001){{Cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/z/zzzap_7777175.shtml|title=BBC - Comedy - Guide - Zzzap!|date=8 January 2005|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050108215730/http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/z/zzzap_7777175.shtml |archive-date=8 January 2005 }}

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