Talk:COVID-19 misinformation#RFC to fix this once and for all

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US House Results

This topic may need to be updated as the USA House of Congress report concluded there was significant misinformation being spread by the USA government and WHO.

This pertains to masking, vaccine efficacy social distancing, and mass quarantining.

They concluded that there was more harm by the policies than good, and that much of it was not based in science but instead for optics. 155.254.196.211 (talk) 16:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

:Politicians spreading misinformation is part of the misinformation phenomenon (as in this 'report').[https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/12/congressional-republicans-conclude-sars-cov-2-originated-in-a-lab-leak/] Bon courage (talk) 16:31, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

:already been discussed, and it has been discussed before. Slatersteven (talk) 16:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Suggestion

It seems like the US military psyops effort to discredit the Sinovac in the Philippines and later also in Central Asian countries and the Middle East has not been added, so I would really recommend doing it. I believe it deserves a visible section or at least a citation near the top in

“Multiple countries have been accused of spreading disinformation with state-backed operations in the social media in other countries to generate panic, sow distrust, and undermine democratic debate in other countries, or to promote their models of government.”

here is the source

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/? 46.24.201.206 (talk) 15:14, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

:Apparently it appears in the USA section of @COVID-19 misinformation by governments , although a bit suspiciously in smaller font than the rest of the body text SketchupTreeTrunk (talk) 15:29, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

:This isn’t the more “innocent” misinformation spread to cut costs in masks and the like, this was very deliberately done to influence the opinions of Asians in favor of the US government even if that meant Middle Eastern, Southeast and Russian speaking Asians becoming ill and dying. SketchupTreeTrunk (talk) 15:37, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

::Nor is this comparable to ignorant statements made by politicians. SketchupTreeTrunk (talk) 15:40, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

:The last comment I will leave: according to Reuters “The clandestine operation has not been previously reported.” And this is merely from last June. SketchupTreeTrunk (talk) 15:45, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

:: It seems to be in the same font as everything else. Slatersteven (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Musk claims about [[USAID]] as a possible source

In a flurry of tweets last week, Elon Musk declared that the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) was “a viper’s nest of radical-left marxists who hate America” and was pure “evil.” One of the prime sins of the international development body, he said, was its alleged role in starting the pandemic.

“Did you know,” he tweeted, “that USAID, using YOUR tax dollars, funded bioweapon research, including Covid-19, that killed millions of people?”

This looks as though it is becoming the governments view.[https://www.wired.com/story/revenge-of-the-covid-conspiracy-theorists/?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=wired&utm_mailing=WIR_Daily_021324&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&utm_content=WIR_Daily_021324&bxid=5be9d86c3f92a40469e75648&cndid=16554313&hasha=aa8ab805992d7c0236bf11630048f573&hashc=f3cade83f73239e9abd4b8e26c5102e6f21c22d8543dafc8c2c9c1d8833b7a90&esrc=MARTECH_ORDERFORM&utm_term=WIR_Daily_Active] Doug Weller talk 17:08, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:So? Slatersteven (talk) 17:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

::Pretty sure that’s misinformation in a big way. Doug Weller talk 18:45, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:::MAybe, but are we using it as a source? Slatersteven (talk) 12:18, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

::::Sorry, I screwed up the section heading. Suggesting it as a source.

:::::I think it would violate wp:primary unless very carefully worded, also may fail wp:undue as this seems to be politically motivated. Slatersteven (talk) 12:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::Are you saying I am politically motivated? Damn, I still feiled to get it right, Musk claimed USAIS financed COVID/ See Forbes[https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/10/elon-musk-pushes-false-claim-ex-usaid-chief-earned-23-million-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-spread-on-x/] and NBC.[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/elon-musk-boosted-false-usaid-conspiracy-theories-global-aid-rcna190646] Doug Weller talk 12:38, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::::No I am saying Musks claims are. Slatersteven (talk) 12:40, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

::::::::That's a relief.:} Yes, they are. Might be worth a mention. Doug Weller talk 12:44, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

:::::::::I'd say it falls afoul of WP:RECENT for now. This is all moving very fast and we don't know how long it'll hold together. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 13:28, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

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