Talk:Changeset#Add section about changeset conventions

Does anyone know when the term 'changeset' first appeared?

It seems that the term is used often in the distributed SCM tools world (Git, Bazaar, Bitkeeper) but hardly at all in the repository-based world. This suggests that the term may have been used first in connection with BitKeeper - but is that true?

Dave b13754 (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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There are various conventions related to changesets such as making them small.

That convention is currently explained at Atomic commit#Atomic commit convention.

I think it would make sense to merge that section into this article.

What do you think about this?

--push-f (talk) 18:13, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|kop}} Pinging you since you very recently [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Version_control&type=revision&diff=1122786759&oldid=1118345775 added such information] to the Version control article. I think it would make sense to document conventions regarding changesets in a single section on the Changeset article. So I suggest that we merge your newly added Version control#Best Practices here, along with the best practices about commit messages you added to Version control#Common terminology (ideally with some sources). What do you think about this plan? --push-f (talk) 19:42, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|push-f}} My initial thought is that it is more useful to have the Version control#Best Practices in a single place, and since there are best practices related to version control (branching comes to mind, perhaps tag uses, probably others) that don't involve changesets that place is in the Version Control article. In which case the thing to do is to link from the Changeset article back to the Version Control Best practices section. Particulars about best practices (probably?) depend what other features the revision control system as a whole provides, making me think that a holistic view is best.

:I also question how much verbiage about metadata belongs in the changeset article, being that the metadata is arguably not part of the changeset itself. Similar to inodes and file data; are they 2 separate things? At one level yes, at another, no. Having said that, I don't see a problem with repeating the Version control#Common terminology Commit message verbiage in the Changeset article. (You will find plenty of supporting references for this wording in Version control#Best Practices.) --kop (talk) 02:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

:{{ping|push-f}} I went and frobbed the article, not really liking the existing sentences. And added an abbreviated Best practices section. --kop (talk) 04:34, 22 November 2022 (UTC)