Talk:Chu Chin Chow

I'm writing an article in which I'm trying to track down the origin of the "Asian riff"-- the short little musical phrase that is the the quintessential stereotypical chinese music.

The "Asian riff" I'm referring to has been used in a lot of different songs, like 1974's "Kung Fu Fighting" by Carl Douglas, "Bad Detective" by New York Dolls, and 1980's "Turning Japanese" by The Vapors.

A short clip (and sheet music) of the riff is

available at:

Asian Riff

Does anyone know if this musical phrase is included

Chu Chin Chow?

-Alecmconroy 04:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

:The only available recording of Chu Chin Chow is very incomplete so one wouldn't want to be dogmatic but FWIIW I don't think so. You might be able to get hold of a complete score and just search right through the whole thing. On the whole the (very faint) "eastern" flavour in the score is more Borodin or Rimsky-Korsakov than stereotyped "Chinese" - middle-eastern rather than far-eastern. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 02:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure that "the provinces" is a phrase one can use in the year 2008 in all seriousness, unless one's name is Hyacinth Bucket (pronounced "boo-KAY"). It basically means "the bits of England that are not London" (i.e. most of it), and nowadays UK peeps are not supposed to be London-centric, or indeed England-centric for that matter. It is only used nowadays in a heavily ironic sense, in the same manner that anyone north of Watford refers to "southern softies". 217.155.20.163 (talk) 01:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

:Agreed it is a little quaint, at best - although it might be a little more current in the "theatrical" sense. As in a "tour of the provinces". While there may be legitimate differences about the importance of various regions of Britain I suspect it would be a general accepted given that London remains the theatrical centre (as New York is in the U.S.). As always - be positive, like have you a widely (and currently) used alternative? Is "regional centres" widely used in this context in England? Would it even be widely understood? If so substitute it by all means. Obsolete terms generally get into Wiki articles from a rather too literal copying of old sources - in itself not a good thing.--Soundofmusicals (talk) 01:55, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

This article omits the serial comma consistently, per MOS:SERIAL. There is no consensus to add it. It clutters up sentences. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:35, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

:I agree that the serial comma should be omitted in this article. I agree that it generally clutters up sentences with embedded lists. Somambulant1 (talk) 22:05, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

::I also agree that the serial comma is unnecessary in articles and clutters up sentences. Jack1956 (talk) 22:27, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

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