Talk:Coleraine

Sounds better than it is :) -- EmSixTeen 21:43, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

: Coleraine has a wealth of history behind it, and is improving all the time. I could never understand why, but it always enjoyed a great reputation as a good shopping town. Moores, before the IRA blew it up, was a great shop right enough. I think it had been a listed building too. --Mal 23:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I am told the use of the term "Diamond" is common both to towns within the juridical area known as "Northern Ireland" and also elsewhere in the north of the island known as "Ireland". Any objections to the sentence being changed accordingly? Any suggestions as to the appropriate neutral terminology to use?--Lucifer(sc) 18:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

:I would avoid saying "north of Ireland", that can be offensive to unionists. Just say "other towns in Ireland", in this case it's fine just to refer to the island as a whole. The only other Diamond I can recall is in Donegal, but I'm sure there are other ones. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 19:28, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

::"north of ireland" shouldnt be offensive, it is about as offensive as saying Northenr Ireland to a republican. As there are "diamonds" also in the northern part of the republic then it would be entirely correct use the term "north of ireland" as they are on both sides of the border Beaumontproject 17:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

:There appears to a place called The Diamond in Ranelagh too. So "other towns in Ireland" is more accurate.Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:06, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I've had a good look through this article. There are quite a few bits of information in this article that remain unsourced. I request that someone who has knowledge of the references used in this article place them in, especially where the "{{Fact|date=April 2008}}" tag is present in the text, or represented with the wikicode {{fact}}. I've had a go through the article and correctly re-referenced all that I could going by the guidelines of WP:CITE. The previous style did not have the summary as defined by Wikipedia:Embedded citations. Otherwise, the article is a good job!
--Mouse Nightshirt 23:22, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Administration.

Coleraine itself in County Antrim? Not at all. Anyone who's ever travelled on the A29 between Coleraine and Ballymoney will know that the county border crosses the A29 (Newbridge Road) on the dual carriageway section between Damhead and Seacon. Coleraine town lies wholly within County Londonderry/Derry, as does Portstewart, whereas Portrush and Ballymoney are both within County Antrim. Largely, the county border follows the river Bann north from Lough Neagh, until it reaches a point a few miles north of Ballymoney, then it turns eastwards, skirting Coleraine, turning north to intersect the coastline between Portrush and Portstewart.

A quick look at any OS map of the area will verify this. Team42 02:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that the introduction could be greatly improved and the unnecessary references to airports could be moved to the body of the article. Also reference could be made to County Coleraine? Bjmullan (talk) 19:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Any references that predate the 1990s of Scots-speakers using Cowlraine? As recently as 1611 Coleraine was popular.[http://www.dsl.ac.uk/getent4.php?query=Coleraine&sset=1&fset=20&printset=20&searchtype=full&dregion=entry&dtext=all] 92.11.52.106 (talk) 19:53, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

:Doesn't matter as the infobox names refer to modern names. Mabuska ^(talk) 10:42, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

If I was to write it in Ulster Scots, I would spell it 'Culrein'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.168.121 (talk) 05:22, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Surely there must be agreement in Ulster Scots over something as simple as the name of Coleraine. Suggest removing numerous refs to the name. No other page has such references for the name in the info box. These should be moved to the description and one name should be present in the info box with the other mentioned as an alternative in the main text. So which is it - hard to tell from the references. Doopa (talk) 15:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Dear fellow editors, {{smiley}}

I am leaving the present message out of courtesy to other editors interested in this article.

Would anyone mind if I relisted, in alphabetical order, the names currently in the subject section? The end result would look something like this. I will wait for a few days and will then proceed if there is no objection, Thank you.

With kind regards;

Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^{(talk)(guestbook)} 10:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

:{{Done}}. With kind regards;

:Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^{(talk)(guestbook)} 21:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

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Dear {{U|86.169.2.160|fellow editor}}, {{smiley}}

I noticed that you are a new Wikipedia user at IP address 86.169.2.160 and I have therefore added a welcome section at your talk page today, which I hope will prove helpful to you. Again, welcome! {{smiley}}

I also noticed that you are interested in adding detail about Gerry McKenna into the list of Notable people in the present article, like you did [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coleraine&diff=824055309&oldid=823980807 here] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coleraine&diff=823402098&oldid=822531586 here]. Thank you for your updates and for your motivation to contribute to our encyclopaedia.

However, I am sure you wondered why your first update had been reverted, and I am writing to you to explain my reasons for doing so:

1. I have been trying to keep the two lists in the article’s section on Notable people to the essential details needed for each entry to be both informative and compact; to this end, each name in the list is appended only with that person’s profession(s), since all other details can be found within the person’s own article. Therefore, since the detail about McKenna being honoured with the Freedom of the Borough of Coleraine is already mentioned and properly sourced in the lead of his article, it seems to me there is no need to duplicate that detail in his entry in the list at this article’s section on the notable people of Coleraine; otherwise, we would have to add similar details for all the other people in the list (to retain consistency), which would cause extra editorial work for very little benefit to the reader.
2. As explained in the guideline on an article’s style (see MOS:STYLEVAR): "When either of two styles are acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change." Although this guideline does not expressly mention lists, I trust you will appreciate that the style I have applied to these lists has required editorial effort to maintain consistency for the benefit of our readers.
   

In summary, I reverted your earlier edit: 1) because it added a detail already documented in the person’s own article, which it therefore duplicates unnecessarily, and 2) in order to keep all entries consistently brief within the list.

Please would you therefore consider the above explanation and, if you were able to agree with my approach, then please kindly remove the extra detail and link you added. Thank you very much for you consideration.

With kind regards;

Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^{(talk)(guestbook)} 12:17, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

:In the absence of any response, I removed the superfluous details myself. {{Done}} Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^{(talk)(guestbook)} 19:56, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

I've just updated the article to use NISRA population statistics from [http://www.ninis2.nisra.gov.uk/public/AreaProfileReportViewer.aspx?FromAPAddressMulipleRecords=Coleraine@Exact%20match%20of%20location%20name:%20@Exact%20Match%20Of%20Location%20Name:%20%20Coleraine@23? here]. There are three separate mentions of population and it seemed to me that they should be consistent. The figures have been subject to vandalism. Previously, under the article's 2011 Census section, NISRA statistics for Coleraine District Electoral Area were used. I updated all the statistics in that section to use those of "Coleraine Settlement" (at the above link) instead, thinking "Settlement" is perhaps closer to what would ordinarily be considered a town/city. I'm open to hearing from those of you who may be more familiar with what the definitive numbers and sources might be, if the above is not the best source. NISRA is not the easiest site to navigate! Thanks Declangi (talk) 10:18, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

:Dear {{U|Declangi}}, {{smiley}}

:Thank you very much for taking this initiative, in addition to our joint efforts to maintain the integrity of the present article. I kept it in my watchlist after sorting out the notable people section some time ago, mainly because of my interest in Sam Henry. However, I am not qualified on the subject of Coleraine itself, but obviously remain happy to keep watch and carry out gnome-ish tasks where I can. I fully support your recent actions, which give easier access to the sources; thank you once again for your contributions to our encyclopedia.

:With kind regards;

:Patrick. ツ Pdebee.^{(talk)(guestbook)} 11:37, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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