Talk:De Lacy

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Coordinates

Why are there coordinates on this article which relates to a family? Peter I. Vardy (talk) 19:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Copyright

I have [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=De_Lacy&diff=prev&oldid=422144817 reverted] the article to the state it was in as of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=De_Lacy&oldid=401412597 9 December 2010] due concerns that material added by {{user|Selkcerf0142}} was copyrighted. More details can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ANev1&action=historysubmit&diff=422144641&oldid=421821062 here]. Nev1 (talk) 14:15, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Complete re-write

Due to the issues above and many other flaws, I have undertaken a complete re-write of the article eliminating duplicate entries, reducing the number of sections and deprecating the dubious claims of the Austrian/Russian family of the same name. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Anomaly

If Ilbert was born 1045, how could his grandson Henry (Ilbert's son's second son) be born 1070? Brownturkey (talk) 09:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

:That's a good pont. It looks like his supposed year of death (1123) is more likely to be his year of birth. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:14, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

:A Google search led me to this blog - no citations but on face value more plausible http://elizabethashworth.com/the-de-lacy-family/henry-de-lacy-the-second-son-of-robert-and-brother-of-ilbert-2/ Brownturkey (talk) 19:27, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

::This genealogy site has a profile for Henry with dates of c1097-1177 [http://www.geni.com/people/Henry-de-Lacy-Baron-of-Pontefract-and-Lord-of-Blackburnshire/6000000006727926871] with 1070-1129 for is father Robert [http://www.geni.com/people/Robert-De-Lacy/6000000001565247804]. I'm not sure if I'd trust it as a source but that bit of the article seems to be un-sourced anyway. --Trappedinburnley (talk) 17:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

::1177 also in this book: "The Legacy of the de Lacy, Lacey, Lacy Family, 1066-1994". Lacey, G. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=rKAKXWXIa9gC (1994). Publ: G. Lacey. It is self-published so not authoritative but I guess it'll have to do until we find a better citation.Brownturkey (talk) 18:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

:::Agreed. Good work. Laurel Lodged (talk) 21:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

::::I've tried again to make some sense of this family tree, but I've found so many inconstancies with this a the related articles it is making my head spin. I would be interested in improving things if anybody has the energy for it.--Trappedinburnley (talk) 21:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Charter of Ilbert de Lacy

Regesta Regum Anglo-Normannorum 1066-1154, volume 1 cites the following charter:

254. Grant by Hilbert de Laci and Hadrude his wife to the Holy Trinity [1067-1087] of the Mount at Rouen.

Of the manor of Tuisuicz and the tithe of Freteval, for the health of his own soul and that of his lord, King William, and his wife and his son Hugh.

Witnesses : King William ; Ilbert de Lacy ; Hadrude his wife.

[Original at Winchester College. Archaeological Journal, vol. iv, p. 249.]

Seal of Hilbert deLacy (facsimile in Arch. Journal, u.s.).

Arcussenilis (talk) 16:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)