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Request for Updates
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- Specific text to be added or removed:
- Please Remove "Discovery has 750+ employees (2023) and an annual turnover of $1 billion in sales (2015)."
- The company currently has 35 properties, not 19
- "The Foundation has donated over $30 million since 2007 to trusted charities providing the best programs and mentors to assist youth."
- Reason for the change: Removal of out-of-date information and Updated information
- References supporting change:
- https://www.cbnme.com/news/discovery-land-company-to-develop-the-first-ultra-luxury-project-in-the-middle-east-discovery-dunes/, https://robbreport.com/shelter/homes-for-sale/summit-club-las-vegas-fete-1235272706/ - current property total
- https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/204420241 - Discovery Land Foundation IRS 990 showing over $30 million in contributions.
19thholeEditor (talk) 14:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{Respond|yellowcheck|Partly done:}} I have removed the 750+ employees as I don't see a direct citation for it. I have updated the number of properties, although the reference used could have been of a better source (it reads like a rewrite of press release). I have not included the $30 million figure as we should not assume that everyone knows how to read Form 990 (case in point, me) and then math the figure out. – robertsky (talk) 16:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Operations section
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Hi! There is room to expand this article based on coverage of Discovery Land Company in reliable sources, of which there are many. I have a financial conflict of interest as an employee of Discovery Land Company, so I'm here to propose updates.
For reference, I created a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AAmandaDLC%2FDLC_Draft&diff=1274000738&oldid=1273947291 diff] to showcase all of the changes I will ultimately seek, but for the purposes of this request, I am focusing on adding a new section on DLC's operations.
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Michael Meldman is the founder and chairman of the Discovery Land Company.{{cite news |title=Mike Meldman is one of the most influential real-estate moguls in the country thanks to his luxurious live-in resorts, which became irresistible to the rich and famous during the pandemic |last1=Solo-Lyons |first1=Natasha |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-meldman-discovery-land-resorts-luxury-real-estate-casamigos-tequila-2021-6 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/3zJw5 |archive-date= October 11, 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=June 4, 2021 |accessdate=October 7, 2024}} The company has more than 35 properties in Hawaii, California, Arizona, Nevada{{cite news |title=Las Vegas’ economy is back, and that’s good news for city’s private golf communities |last1=Kaufmann |first1=Martin |url=https://golfweek.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2017/06/29/las-vegas-economy-is-back-and-thats-good-news-for-citys-private-golf-communities/76643729007/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/Jl91l |archive-date=December 18, 2024 |work=USA Today |date=June 29, 2017 |access-date=December 18, 2024}}, Idaho, Montana, Texas, Tennessee, New York, and North Carolina in the U.S., in addition to Los Cabos, Mexico, Great Guana Cay, The Bahamas,{{cite news |title=Developer Michael Meldman brings star power to luxury, kid-friendly residential clubs |last1=Strong |first1=Kathy |url=https://www.palmspringslife.com/family-guy/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/gikmi |archive-date=December 17, 2024 |work=Palm Springs Magazine |date=April 29, 2011 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}{{cite news |title=Discovery Land plans Baker’s Bay opening |last1=Kaufmann |first1=Martin |url=https://golfweek.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2010/01/11/discovery-land-plans-bakers-bay-opening/76700053007/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/svJA1 |archive-date=December 18, 2024 |work=USA Today |date=January 11, 2010 |access-date=December 18, 2024}} Dubai South, United Arab Emirates{{cite news |title=Discovery Land Company To Develop The First Ultra-Luxury Project in the Middle East, Discovery Dunes |last1=Illankoon |first1=Kasun |url=https://www.cbnme.com/news/discovery-land-company-to-develop-the-first-ultra-luxury-project-in-the-middle-east-discovery-dunes/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/dXBl0 |archive-date=December 20, 2023 |work=The New York Times |date=December 20, 2023 |access-date=December 18, 2024}}, and Portugal.{{cite news |title=On the Portuguese Coast, an Appealing Spot for Seaside Homes |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/realestate/portugal-comporta-real-estate-resorts-homes.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/vHbcc |archive-date=November 5, 2021 |work=The New York Times |date=November 5, 2021 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}{{cite news |title=The Luxury Real Estate Empire Where Tom Brady and Reese Witherspoon Can Hide Out |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani |url=https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/discovery-land-luxury-real-estate |archive-url=https://archive.ph/RdkXx |archive-date=November 14, 2022 |work=Architectural Digest |date=March 5, 2022 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
The Discovery Land Foundation was established in 2007 to support the communities around the company's resorts. The foundation reports annual investments in the hundreds of millions.{{cite news |title=George Clooney and Rande Gerber have a third partner in their $1 billion tequila company, and he happens to be a real estate tycoon |last1=Millington |first1=Alison |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/george-clooney-rande-gerber-casamigos-mike-meldman-real-estate-tycoon-2018-11 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/EfFRQ |archive-date= December 15, 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=December 8, 2018 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
As of 2022, Discovery's sustainability department manages programs focused on renewable energy, waste reduction, water conservation, and habitat preservation.{{cite news |title=Meet the Man With a Plan to Build Greener Golf Communities |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/09/realestate/sustainable-golf-homes.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/kxAf2 |archive-date=September 25, 2024 |work=The New York Times |date=September 9, 2022 |access-date=September 9, 2022}}
As of 2023, golf course architect Tom Fazio has created approximately fifteen golf courses for Discovery, including those at Baker's Bay Gold & Ocean Club, the Barbuda Ocean Club, and Driftwood Golf and Ranch Club.{{cite news |title=Tom Fazio-designed Driftwood Golf and Ranch Club voted best new course in Texas |last1=Kazlowski |first1=Mark |url=https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/golf/2023/05/08/tom-fazio-designed-driftwood-golf-and-ranch-club-voted-best-new-course-in-texas/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/ojzZJ |archive-date=December 11, 2024 |work=The Dallas Morning News |date=May 9, 2023 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
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Note: Some of this currently lives in the live article's History section. If editors implement the above Operations proposal, duplicative info could be deleted from History. Or if editors would rather wait to see my History proposal before doing that, that's fine too.
I welcome any feedback, questions, or concerns about these proposed changes.
Thanks! AmandaDLC (talk) 19:27, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hello @User:AmandaDLC. I'd like to note that I do intend to review this some time in the future. Sorry for the long wait and thank you for the patience. Tarlby (t) (c) 03:55, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Tarlby}} Thanks! Let me know if you have any questions. AmandaDLC (talk) 17:27, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi {{ping|Tarlby}}! Just checking in to see if you have any questions about my request – I'm happy to clarify anything and be of help. I really appreciate your comment and interest, and look forward to working with you. Thanks AmandaDLC (talk) 16:04, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
::::Funnily enough, I was literally just looking over this right when you commented. I tweaked some parts and removed more indiscriminate information if that's fine with you. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Discovery_Land_Company&diff=prev&oldid=1279960960] Tarlby (t) (c) 16:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::Hi {{ping|Tarlby}}! That is fine with me, thank you so much. I really appreciate your help on this and the other article. I will be posting other edit requests soon for the Discovery Land Company page, and would love your future input on them. AmandaDLC (talk) 19:09, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
History section
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Hi again! There is room to expand this article based on coverage of Discovery Land Company in reliable sources, of which there are many. I have a financial conflict of interest as an employee of Discovery Land Company, so I'm here to propose updates.
For reference, I created a [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AAmandaDLC%2FDLC_Draft&diff=1274000738&oldid=1273947291 diff] to showcase all of the changes I wish to ultimately seek, but for the purposes of this request, I am focusing on adding information about the history of DLC. Can editors replace the existing History section with the following? This version of the History section includes all of the information that the current live version does, save for the Two Lewis Road project since there was no available sourcing. My proposed updates seek to improve sourcing and add more information.
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Discovery Land Company was founded in 1994 by Michael S. Meldman. Previously, Meldman worked as a commercial broker in the San Francisco Bay Area in the early 1980s.{{cite news |title=Mike Meldman is one of the most influential real-estate moguls in the country thanks to his luxurious live-in resorts, which became irresistible to the rich and famous during the pandemic |last1=Solo-Lyons |first1=Natasha |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-meldman-discovery-land-resorts-luxury-real-estate-casamigos-tequila-2021-6 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/3zJw5 |archive-date= October 11, 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=June 4, 2021 |accessdate=October 7, 2024}} His first independent real estate project was Blue Oaks in Portola Valley, California, which he developed with financing from three friends in the mid-1980s. In 1996, he opened The Estancia Club with more than 200 homes in Scottsdale, Arizona, a suburb of Phoenix. That same year, the Estancia Club's golf course was named the best new private course by Golf Digest.{{cite news |title=Developer Michael Meldman brings star power to luxury, kid-friendly residential clubs |last1=Strong |first1=Kathy |url=https://www.palmspringslife.com/family-guy/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/gikmi |archive-date=December 17, 2024 |work=Palm Springs Magazine |date=April 29, 2011 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
In 1998, Discovery opened the Iron Horse in Whitefish, Montana, where it introduced their Outdoor Pursuits program. A year later, the company developed Kukio in Kona, Hawaii, and then 535-acre Vaquero Golf Club in Westlake, Texas, in 2000.{{cite news |title=The Most Expensive Homes For Sale in Westlake — The Wealthiest City in Texas |last1=Dabney |first1=Courtney |url=https://www.papercitymag.com/real-estate/westlake-homes-for-sale-most-expensive-texas/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/i0qak |archive-date=December 15, 2024 |work=Paper City Magazine |date=July 11, 2024 |accessdate=December 11, 2024}} Discovery acquired and completed The Hideaway in La Quinta, California, in 2002 following the original owner's failure to complete its development. The development consists of 500 residential lots, which were sold within 18 months of the project's relaunch. Discovery opened the Mountaintop Golf & Lake Club in Cashiers, North Carolina, in 2003 and Gozzer Ranch Golf & Lake Club in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, in 2004.{{cite news |title=Discovery Land plans Baker’s Bay opening |last1=Kaufmann |first1=Martin |url=https://golfweek.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2010/01/11/discovery-land-plans-bakers-bay-opening/76700053007/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/svJA1 |archive-date=January 11, 2020 |work=USA Today |date=January 11, 2010 |access-date=December 18, 2024}}
The Yellowstone Club in Montana, a private ski and golf facility, was acquired jointly by Discovery and the Yellowstone Club organization in 2009, following the divorce of previous owners Tim Blixseth and Edra Blixseth.
Discovery's residential communities experienced growth due to the COVID-19 pandemic. In March 2020, approximately 100 families chose to quarantine at the Yellowstone Club in Big Sky, Montana, with additional residents staying at Discovery's Madison Club in La Quinta, California, and Silo Ridge Field Club in New York's Hudson Valley. The communities experienced a demographic shift, with an uptick in younger family residents.{{cite news |title=The Luxury Real Estate Empire Where Tom Brady and Reese Witherspoon Can Hide Out |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani|url=https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/discovery-land-luxury-real-estate |archive-url=https://archive.ph/RdkXx |archive-date=November 14, 2022 |work=Architectural Digest |date=March 5, 2022 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
Discovery acquired land in 2021 to build CostaTerra in Comporta south of Lisbon, Portugal.{{cite news |title=On the Portuguese Coast, an Appealing Spot for Seaside Homes |last1=Vora|first1=Shivani|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/realestate/portugal-comporta-real-estate-resorts-homes.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/vHbcc |archive-date=November 5, 2021 |work=The New York Times |date=November 5, 2021 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
The Driftwood Golf and Ranch Club opened in May 2022 near Austin, Texas.{{cite news |title=Tom Fazio-designed Driftwood Golf and Ranch Club voted best new course in Texas |last1=Kazlowski |first1=Mark |url=https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/golf/2023/05/08/tom-fazio-designed-driftwood-golf-and-ranch-club-voted-best-new-course-in-texas/ |archive-url=https://archive.ph/ojzZJ |archive-date=December 11, 2024 |work=The Dallas Morning News |date=May 9, 2023 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}
Barbuda Ocean Club opened in 2023 on the island of Barbuda.{{cite news|url=https://nypost.com/2022/01/06/the-best-vip-wfh-caribbean-villas-hitting-the-market-now/|title=The best VIP WFH Caribbean villas hitting the market now|newspaper=New York Post|last1=Ellwood|first1=Mark}}
In May 2024, Discovery opened its first club in the Middle East, Discovery Dunes in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.{{cite news |title=This ultra-luxe, ultra-exclusive community in the desert is selling plots for up to $50 million |last1=Collins |first1=Leah |url=https://www.cnn.com/travel/dubai-discovery-dunes-luxury-community-spc-intl/index.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/YtHCw |archive-date=January 13, 2025 |work=CNN News |date=May 22, 2024 |access-date=December 11, 2024}} The Austin Surf Club, a 190-acre site 15 miles from Austin, Texas and joint venture between Discovery and surfer Kelly Slater, was announced in 2024. The development has a 2,220-square-foot surf basin and 140 residential units.{{cite news |title=More than five years after closing, NLand Surf Park to get new life as private surf community |last1=Sayers |first1=Justin |url=https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2024/10/25/austin-surf-club-kelly-slater-nland-condo.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/KGC2h |archive-date=October 25, 2024 |work=Austin Business Journals |date=October 25, 2024 |access-date=January 11, 2025}}
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Now that the Operations section has been implemented by Tarlby, this section will fix the redundancies now present in the live article.
Just as before, I welcome any feedback, questions, or concerns about these proposed changes.
Thanks! AmandaDLC (talk) 21:15, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
:{{Done}} I've performed some tweaks including issues with prose. I've also spotchecked a few of the sources and found some problems which I acted upon. Please review my changes. Thank you! Tarlby (t) (c) 04:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{ping|Tarlby}} I appreciate your help with this again, thanks! I have just a couple of notes and questions:
::*I noticed you did not include my proposed content about the Discovery Land Foundation or DLC's sustainability department. Were there any issues with that content? If so, I'm happy to revise. It is relevant to the company's operations, so I would like to see it included if possible. As a reminder, here's what I proposed:
:::{{box|The Discovery Land Foundation was established in 2007 to support the communities around the company's resorts. The foundation reports annual investments in the hundreds of millions.{{cite news |title=George Clooney and Rande Gerber have a third partner in their $1 billion tequila company, and he happens to be a real estate tycoon |last1=Millington |first1=Alison |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/george-clooney-rande-gerber-casamigos-mike-meldman-real-estate-tycoon-2018-11 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/EfFRQ |archive-date= December 15, 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=December 8, 2018 |access-date=December 11, 2024}} As of 2022, Discovery's sustainability department manages programs focused on renewable energy, waste reduction, water conservation, and habitat preservation.{{cite news |title=Meet the Man With a Plan to Build Greener Golf Communities |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/09/realestate/sustainable-golf-homes.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/kxAf2 |archive-date=September 25, 2024 |work=The New York Times |date=September 9, 2022 |access-date=September 9, 2022}}}}
::*Could you update revenue in the Infobox? Our annual revenue was $2 billion in 2020 according to Business Insider.{{cite news |title=Mike Meldman is one of the most influential real-estate moguls in the country thanks to his luxurious live-in resorts, which became irresistible to the rich and famous during the pandemic |last1=Solo-Lyons |first1=Natasha |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-meldman-discovery-land-resorts-luxury-real-estate-casamigos-tequila-2021-6 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/3zJw5 |archive-date=October 7, 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=June 4, 2021 |accessdate=October 7, 2024}}
::*Lastly for this request, it seems as though the External links section heading was accidentally deleted. Do you mind fixing that? Thanks. AmandaDLC (talk) 17:50, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
::*:I've been busy improving an article I'm working if you're wondering where I've been (read it here if you wish. I'm quite proud of it). I believe I managed to accidentally delete that information, so I'll add it all back now, plus the stuff you asked for. Tarlby (t) (c) 04:01, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
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::::{{ping|Tarlby}} Thanks for making these updates. I noticed that there is a short citation error. Ref name "BIns12" is invoked twice. However those short citations should be
:::::Done. You should be able to fix formatting issues yourself. Thank you. Tarlby (t) (c) 15:30, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
:::::: {{ping|Tarlby}} Thanks! You're right I should be able to, but I like to maintain a strict line against directly editing when possible.
:::::: By the way, I checked out the Rain World article you've been improving. It looks really good!
:::::: Thanks for all your help on this. I expect to have another request up soon, if you're interested. I'll ping you when it's up. AmandaDLC (talk) 21:22, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
Introduction updates
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Hi again! My last request for the time being is to update the introduction. Again, I have a financial conflict of interest as an employee of Discovery Land Company, so I'm here to propose updates in place of direct editing the article.
Currently the live introduction is outdated. My proposed intro below reflects Discovery Land Company's international presence.
Could editors update the Introduction with the following?:
{{box|The Discovery Land Company is an American multi-national real estate development company and hospitality operator based in Scottsdale, Arizona. Founded in 1994 by Michael Meldman, the company operates private residential communities and clubs in North America, the Caribbean, Europe and the Middle East.{{cite news |title=The Luxury Real Estate Empire Where Tom Brady and Reese Witherspoon Can Hide Out |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani |url=https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/discovery-land-luxury-real-estate |archive-url=https://archive.ph/RdkXx |archive-date=November 14, 2022 |work=Architectural Digest |date=March 5, 2022 |access-date=December 11, 2024}}{{cite news |title=On the Portuguese Coast, an Appealing Spot for Seaside Homes |last1=Vora |first1=Shivani|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/05/realestate/portugal-comporta-real-estate-resorts-homes.html |archive-url=https://archive.ph/vHbcc |archive-date=November 5, 2021 |work=The New York Times |date=November 5, 2021 |access-date=December 11, 2024}} In 2022, the company announced its international expansion.{{Cite web |date=2022-05-24 |title=Discovery Land Company Plans Global Expansion With Brett White and Michelle Ngo |url=https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220524005396/en/Discovery-Land-Company-Plans-Global-Expansion-With-Brett-White-and-Michelle-Ngo |access-date=2023-05-15 |website=www.businesswire.com |language=en}}{{Cite web |title=Discovery Plans Global Expansion With Two High-Profile Additions |url=https://www.connectcre.com/stories/discovery-plans-global-expansion-with-two-high-profile-additions/ |access-date=2023-05-15 |website=Connect CRE |language=en-US}} Discovery had an annual turnover of $2 billion in sales in 2020.{{Cite news |last=Vora |first=Shivani |date=2022-09-09 |title=Meet the Man With a Plan to Build Greener Golf Communities |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/09/realestate/sustainable-golf-homes.html |access-date=2025-04-04 |work=The New York Times |language=en-US |issn=0362-4331}}
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Pinging you here Tarlby, just in case you are interested in taking a look. Just as before, I welcome any feedback, questions, or concerns about these proposed changes.
Thanks! AmandaDLC (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{Done}} Ilovefood123123 (talk) 10:07, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
::Hello Ilovefood123123, I really appreciate your review of my edit request. I have a couple of clarification questions, see below:
:::*Could you remove the extra "t" in "tthe company operates"?
:::*Is there a reason why the word "multi-national" was not added to the first sentence? While we are based in Scottsdale, Arizona, our company is present in multiple countries.
::Additionally, I have an open request over on the Michael Meldman article if you are interested in taking a look. Thanks! AmandaDLC (talk) 19:44, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
:::My apologies on the typo, I have fixed it. I seem to have overlooked where the word "multi-national" was added to the first sentence. I have added it back. Thanks. Ilovefood123123 (talk) 01:26, 30 May 2025 (UTC)