Talk:Edelson#Edit Requests for April 2022

I have removed contentious content that was sourced only to press releases. Please do not readd the edits unless they are discussed here or are adequately sourced per WP:RS. Flowanda | Talk 06:50, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:Rather than simply deleting material that is accurate, why don't you do the work and find the sources EMG1234 (talk) 22:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Information regarding the Curry v. AvMed, Inc. privacy case is inaccurate. Recommended revision to editor and provided reference to https://www.privacyassociation.org/publications/2013_04_01_recent_ruling_could_prove_costly_for_hacked_businesses

MelanieTrudeau (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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Updated the Curry v. AvMed information and added citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.195.103.119 (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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I have a COI as an employee of Edelson PC, the subject of this article. I am requesting that independent editors review the following proposal with several important updates to the article.

REQUEST 1

In the lead, as the new second sentence, please add:

Edelson’s cases include class action settlements against Facebook for $650 million (2021),{{cite news |last1=Channick |first1=Robert |title=Facebook privacy settlement approved: Nearly 1.6 million Illinois users will ‘expeditiously’ get at least $345 |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-facebook-privacy-settlement-approval-20210227-okljqhsiargl7ijvzzfcotpyby-story.html |access-date=31 March 2021 |work=Chicago Tribune |date=26 February 2021}}{{cite news |last1=Williams |first1=Jordan |title=Judge approves $650M settlement in photo-tagging lawsuit against Facebook |url=https://thehill.com/policy/technology/540807-judge-approves-650m-settlement-in-face-tagging-lawsuit-against-facebook |website=The Hill |access-date=25 May 2021 |date=27 February 2021}} social casino apps for nearly $200 million (2021),{{cite web |title=Attys In Slot App Suits Top $50M In Fees From Settlements |url=https://www.law360.com/articles/1355048/attys-in-slot-app-suits-top-50m-in-fees-from-settlements |website=law360.com |access-date=25 May 2021}}{{cite news |last1=Embree |first1=Dave |title=Edelson PC wins $50 million payout from 'social casino' litigation |url=https://today.westlaw.com/Document/I0976c6c7722411ebbea4f0dc9fb69570/View/FullText.html?contextData=(sc.Default)&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Westlaw Today |publisher=Thompson Reuters |date=18 February 2021}} and a $925 million verdict against ViSalus (2020.){{cite news |title=Federal judge upholds $925 million damages verdict in ViSalus robocalls case |url=https://www.crainsdetroit.com/courts/federal-judge-upholds-925-million-damages-verdict-visalus-robocalls-case |access-date=2 April 2021 |work=Crain's Detroit Business |publisher=Associated Press |date=19 August 2020}}{{cite news |title=‘Death sentence’ for robocalls? Judge OKs nearly $1B in damages |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-robocall-925-million-damages-20200819-ntckuc3vsvbzvnishl5qcqlvta-story.html |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Chicago Tribune |agency=Associated Press |date=19 August 2020}}

Why? The cases, and Edelson’s role, have been widely reported because of the size and notability of the cases.

:{{Already done}} Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:46, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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REQUEST 2

In the section Practice Areas, subsection Mass Tort cases, please replace:

Edelson PC is co-lead counsel in the NCAA personal injury concussion litigation,{{cite web|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/sports/ncaafootball/six-head-injury-suits-filed-in-new-front-against-colleges-and-ncaa.html?_r=0 |title=Six Concussion Suits Are Filed Against Colleges and N.C.A.A. |work=The New York Times}} where it is in charge of more than 100 putative class action lawsuits brought against the NCAA, its member institutions, and its conferences on behalf of college football players who allege they suffered repeated concussions. The case has been described as one of the largest actions pending in the country.{{cite web|url=https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:oka6Q9JGOJAJ:https://www.law360.com/articles/968074/ill-powerhouses-stay-on-top-of-chicago-s-trends+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us|title=Powerhouses Stay On Top Of Chicago's Trends |publisher=Law 360}}

WITH

Edelson PC is co-lead counsel in the NCAA personal injury concussion litigation brought against the NCAA,{{cite news |last1=Russo |first1=Ralph D. |title=Wave of concussion lawsuits to test NCAA’s liability |url=https://apnews.com/article/4a4ed68e4c3a426abc4e34606ae4a399 |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Associated Press |agency=Associated Press |date=7 February 2019}} its member institutions, and its conferences on behalf of college football players who allege the NCAA failed to protect them from concussions and brain damage, including CTE. There are more than 369 total lawsuits filed.{{cite news |last1=Sellers |first1=Stephen M. |title=College Concussion Claims Put NCAA at Risk as Tragedies Multiply |url=https://news.bloomberglaw.com/product-liability-and-toxics-law/college-concussion-claims-put-ncaa-at-risk-as-tragedies-multiply |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Bloomberg Law |date=5 March 2019}}

Why?: Removes out of date info (>100 lawsuits) and adds updated number of cases (>369) using figures published in a reliable secondary source. Removes one speculative sentence.

:{{Done}} Heartmusic678 (talk) 13:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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REQUEST 3

In the section ‘Practice history’, please create a new subsection and entry:

Plaintiffs’ Bar Reform

Jay Edelson and Edelson PC have regularly raised public concern regarding the conduct of plaintiffs’ attorneys and objected to a number of settlements.{{cite news |last1=Thomas |first1=David |title=Jay Edelson says TikTok settlement, Girardi bankruptcy show class action bar is 'broken' |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-edelson-lawsuits-idUSKBN2B12SI |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Reuters |date=9 March 2021}}{{cite news |last1=Blum |first1=Vanessa |last2=Todd |first2=Ross |title=A Plaintiff-Side View on Big Law Bloat, COVID Cutbacks and the ‘Secret Sauce’ for Landing Mega Settlements |url=https://www.law.com/2020/10/23/a-plaintiff-side-view-on-big-law-bloat-covid-cutbacks-and-the-secret-sauce-for-landing-mega-settlements/ |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Law.com |date=23 October 2020}} Edelson has objected to or intervened in settlements with TikTok, the NCAA,{{cite news |last1=Solomon |first1=Jon |title=Attorneys push back to approve NCAA concussion settlement |url=https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/attorneys-push-back-to-approve-ncaa-concussion-settlement/ |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=CBSSports.com |date=6 September 2014}}{{cite news |last1=Bronstad |first1=Amanda |title=ow Two Big-Name Plaintiffs Lawyers Became Rivals Over NCAA Concussion Cases |url=https://www.law.com/sites/almstaff/2017/03/03/how-two-big-name-plaintiffs-lawyers-became-rivals-over-ncaa-concussion-cases-2/ |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Law.com |date=3 March 2017}} Neiman Marcus,{{cite news |last1=Frankel |first1=Alison |title=Surprise twist in landmark Neiman Marcus data breach case: Judge dissolves settlement class |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-otc-neimanmarcus-classaction/surprise-twist-in-landmark-neiman-marcus-data-breach-case-judge-dissolves-settlement-class-idUSKCN1LY312 |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Reuters |date=18 September 2018}} and Equifax.{{cite news |last1=Frankel |first1=Alison |title=Plaintiffs' lawyer Jay Edelson slams $380 million Equifax deal in amicus brief at 11th Circuit |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-equifax-idUSKBN265381 |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Reuters |date=14 September 2020}}

The firm also brought a RICO lawsuit against a “professional class-action objector” raising allegations of extortion, which resulted in a judgment entered against an attorney, Christopher Bandas, prohibiting him from practicing law in the state of Illinois and limiting his ability to object to class action settlements in federal or state court.{{cite news |last1=Bilyk |first1=Jonathan |title=Judge OKs Bandas' request barring Illinois law practice, orders end to Edelson's suit over class action objections |url=https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/511723994-judge-oks-bandas-request-barring-illinois-law-practice-orders-end-to-edelson-s-suit-over-class-action-objections |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Cook County Record |date=18 January 2019}}{{cite news |last1=Bologna |first1=Michael J. |title=Notorious ‘Serial Objector’ May Have Filed His Last Objection (1) |url=https://news.bloomberglaw.com/class-action/notorious-serial-objector-may-have-filed-his-last-objection-1 |access-date=4 June 2021 |work=Bloomberg Law |date=12 March 2019}}

In December 2020, the firm filed a lawsuit against Tom Girardi, the law firm of Girardi & Keese, and Erika Girardi, among others, alleging that Girardi had misappropriated client funds. Following the filing of that lawsuit, numerous other allegations against Tom Girardi came to light and he and his law firm thereafter filed for bankruptcy.{{cite news |last1=Barker |first1=Anne |last2=Guilianno |first2=Archicco |title=Tom Girardi sued by Indonesia's Lion air crash families over claims US lawyer embezzled millions of their settlement funds |url=https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/claims-us-lawyer-embezzled-millions-from-indonesian-client-funds/100181262 |access-date=5 June 2021 |date=5 June 2021}}

Why?: Edelson’s prominent actions in attempting to reform the Plaintiffs’ Bar have been covered in the mainstream media and trade publications.

:{{ping|NorthCenterChicago}} {{Done}}. This section doesn't explicitly discuss plaintiffs' bar reform, so I titled it Class Action Settlements for the time being. If you have suggestions for a more fitting title, feel free to ping me or contact me through my talk page. Thanks, Heartmusic678 (talk) 14:20, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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REQUEST 4

Please RENAME the section

Notable Cases

TO

Notable Cases and Clients

Why?: This section includes both cases and clients. By renaming the section, it better reflects what’s there now and allows for it to be revised accordingly.

REQUEST 5

Please correct the spelling of the following in Notable Cases section (or “Notable Cases and Clients” if renamed) from:

Spokeo v. Robbins

TO

Spokeo v. Robins

Why?: Corrects the misspelled name in the first case (from Robbins to Robins).

Thank youNorthCenterChicago (talk) 14:51, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

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I have a COI as an employee of Edelson PC, the subject of this article. I am requesting that independent editors review the following proposal with several important updates to the article.

1. In Notable Cases, after paragraph five, please add a new paragraph 6:

Edelson has litigated class action lawsuits related to online games known as “social casinos.” Three lawsuits settled in February 2021 for almost $200 million.{{cite web |title=Attys In Slot App Suits Top $50M In Fees From Settlements |url=https://www.law360.com/articles/1355048/attys-in-slot-app-suits-top-50m-in-fees-from-settlements |website=law360.com |access-date=25 May 2021}}{{cite news |last1=Embree |first1=Dave |title=Edelson PC wins $50 million payout from 'social casino' litigation |url=https://today.westlaw.com/Document/I0976c6c7722411ebbea4f0dc9fb69570/View/FullText.html?contextData=(sc.Default)&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Westlaw Today |publisher=Thompson Reuters |date=18 February 2021}}

Why? Substantial $200 million case settlements supported by reliable secondary sources.

2. In section Notable Cases, please insert new paragraph after paragraph 6, paragraph 7:

In April 2019, Edelson PC achieved a $925 million jury verdict against nutritional supplement maker Visalus for violations of the Telephone Consumer Protection Act. Edelson lawyers proved ViSalus made over 1.8 million unsolicited robocalls in violation of the TCPA, each garnering a $500 fine.{{cite news |title=Revenge of the robocall recipients: Jury finds marketer ViSalus liable for 1.8 million calls |url=https://www.reuters.com/article/us-otc-robocall-idINKCN1RR26S |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Reuters |publisher=Thompson Reuters |date=15 April 2019}}{{cite news |title=Federal judge upholds $925 million damages verdict in ViSalus robocalls case |url=https://www.crainsdetroit.com/courts/federal-judge-upholds-925-million-damages-verdict-visalus-robocalls-case |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Crain's Detroit Business |agency=Associated Press |date=19 August 2020}}{{cite news |title=‘Death sentence’ for robocalls? Judge OKs nearly $1B in damages |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-robocall-925-million-damages-20200819-ntckuc3vsvbzvnishl5qcqlvta-story.html |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Chicago Tribune |agency=Associated Press |date=19 August 2020}} The verdict was upheld by a federal judge in August 2020.{{cite news |title=‘Death sentence’ for robocalls? Judge OKs nearly $1B in damages |url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-robocall-925-million-damages-20200819-ntckuc3vsvbzvnishl5qcqlvta-story.html |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Chicago Tribune |agency=Associated Press |date=19 August 2020}}{{cite news |title=Federal judge upholds $925 million damages verdict in ViSalus robocalls case |url=https://www.crainsdetroit.com/courts/federal-judge-upholds-925-million-damages-verdict-visalus-robocalls-case |access-date=2 April 2021 |work=Crain's Detroit Business |publisher=Associated Press |date=19 August 2020}}

Why? This case is widely reported in major media outlets, supported by multiple WP: RS.

3. In the section Notable Cases, add paragraph seven, after paragraph six:

Edelson PC represented more than 1,000 wildfire victims against Pacific Gas & Electric following the 2018 Camp Fire (2018) in Paradise, California.{{cite news |last1=Cooper |first1=Perry |title=PG&E Hit With Class Action Over Camp Fire (1) |url=https://news.bloomberglaw.com/class-action/pg-e-hit-with-class-action-over-camp-fire-1 |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=Bloomberg Law |date=6 December 2018}} The litigation was resolved in December 2019 through a $13.5 billion settlement.{{cite news |last1=Gonzales |first1=Richard |title=PG&E Announces $13.5 Billion Settlement Of Claims Linked To California Wildfires |url=https://www.npr.org/2019/12/07/785775074/pg-e-announces-13-5-billion-settlement-of-claims-linked-to-california-wildfires |access-date=25 May 2021 |work=NPR |date=7 December 2019}}

4. In Notable Cases, please REMOVE the current final paragraph:

Edelson PC additionally represents governmental entities in a variety of privacy lawsuits. For example, Edelson PC brought a lawsuit on behalf of the City of Chicago and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office against Uber related to reports of a data breach.{{

Cite web|url=

https://www.bna.com/chicago-hires-class-n73014472543/

|title=Chicago Hires Class Action Firm to Sue Uber Over Data Breach

|publisher=Bloomberg

}}

Additionally, Edelson PC filed a lawsuit on behalf of the Cook County State's Attorney's Office in the first filed government action against Facebook and Cambridge Analytica stemming from reports they allegedly shared and collected consumer data for purposes related to the 2016 US Presidential Election.{{

Cite web|url=

https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/511370687-cook-county-hires-edelson-sues-facebook-cambridge-analytica-over-use-of-data-in-16-trump-campaign

|title=Cook County hires Edelson PC, sues Facebook, Cambridge Analytica over use of data in '16 Trump campaign

|publisher=Cook County Record

}}

Why? The first sentence is not a case, but plaintiffs. Second sentence is pending litigation is too speculative, with only a small amount of media coverage, and no outcome yet.

5. In the section called “Firm Culture”, please delete the paragraph

Edelson PC has drawn attention in the legal community by cultivating the feel of a startup. The dress code is casual and the Chicago offices have an indoor volleyball court, golf simulator, a ping pong table, a pool table and a large mural of MCs in the midst of a rap battle.{{

Cite web|url=

https://tech.co/better-age-chicagos-top-founders-40-2016-08/gallery/5#scroll-to-gallery

|title=Better with Age: Chicago's Top Ten Startup Founders over 40

|publisher=Tech.co

}} The firm has also adopted an unconventional training system of guided independence where everyone is expected to make their own decisions, take responsibility for moving cases forward, and contribute to case management and strategy.{{

Cite web|url=

http://www.abajournal.com/legalrebels/article/jay_edelson_trust_young_lawyers_they_wont_let_you_down/

|title=Jay Edelson: Trust Young Lawyers & They Won't Let You Down

|publisher=Legal Rebels

}}

Even summer associates are given the respect and responsibility of an attorney.{{

Cite web|url=

https://www.bna.com/end-the-summer-associate-sideshow-and-start-treating-them-like-the-almost-lawyers-they-are/?amp=true

|title=End the Summer Associate Sideshow (and start treating them like the almost-lawyers they are)

|publisher=Bloomberg Law

}} Edelson's prank culture has featured elaborate jokes such as hiring an actor to play an unruly law student{{

Cite web|url=

https://abovethelaw.com/2013/08/this-firm-hired-an-actor-to-play-the-worlds-worst-summer-associate/

|title=This Firm Hired An Actor To Play The World's Worst Summer Associate

|publisher=Above The Law

}}

employing a polar bear as an attorney,{{

Cite web|url=

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/09/lets-screw-with-some-summer-associates/

|title=Let's Screw With Some Summer Associates

|publisher=Above The Law

}}

and commissioning a musical parody of Hamilton written by Edelson PC lawyers{{

Cite web|url=

https://biglawbusiness.com/the-full-lyrics-to-edelson-p-c-s-hamilton-parody/

|title=The Full Lyrics to Edelson P.C.'s Hamilton Parody

|publisher=Bloomberg Law

}}

And replace it with:

Edelson PC has drawn attention in the legal community by cultivating the feel of a startup. The firm has also adopted an unconventional training system of guided independence where everyone is expected to make their own decisions, take responsibility for moving cases forward, and contribute to case management and strategy.{{

Cite web|url=

http://www.abajournal.com/legalrebels/article/jay_edelson_trust_young_lawyers_they_wont_let_you_down/

|title=Jay Edelson: Trust Young Lawyers & They Won't Let You Down

|publisher=Legal Rebels

}}

Why? Excessive detail and non-NPOV.

Thank you for your consideration. Mtd6596 (talk) 16:13, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

:Hi! Thank your for your well-sourced and nicely formatted request. Suggestions 1-3 are appropriate, you can proceed with adding them to the article. Please ensure that you transfer the citations correctly.

:I understand where you're coming from with suggestion 4, but the fact that Edelson regularly represents government entities is relevant, reported on, and well-sourced. I will instead change the section title to "Notable activities" to better reflect its contents.

:Suggestion 5 is not sufficiently argued; the detail is not excessive given the volume of reporting that has focussed on firm culture. WP:NPOV states that Wikipedia should reflect what has been reported by reliable sources neutrally, it does not mean that articles must be balanced or entirely neutral. For example, reporting (and focussing on) praise or criticism of an activity is legitimate when this reflects what has been published by reliable sources. WP:Undue weight applies when an article gives more weight to a particular opinion or point of view than is given by reliable sources; that is not the case here. Actualcpscm (talk) 13:10, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

{{ping|Heartmusic678}} You were nice enough to review the last round of request edits regarding this firm. Since you already have knowledge about the firm. I thought you might be interested in the next round.Mtd6596 (talk) 16:23, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

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