Talk:Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick#Edit warring

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Edit warring

Several IP editors have been edit warring over this page, including repeatedly adding and removing a {{t|COI}} template. Possible conflicts of interest and content disputes should be discussed on the talk page, and not in edit summaries. Allegations of sockpuppetry should be taken to WP:SPI. Wracking ^talk! 01:56, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

:Due to edit warring the article has been temporarily fully protected. Now would be a good time to discuss the disputed content here. If that doesn't work, I would recommend requesting dispute resolution assistance. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 02:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

::I've lifted the full protection. It seems pretty clear that COI editing and sockpuppetry is the source of all of the recent issues on this page. The consistent theme is attempts to add the travel agency to the article as you can see in these edits: {{diff2|1152357649}}, {{diff2|1176230105}}, {{diff2|1187687305}}, {{diff2|1189469232}}, {{diff2|1189631229}}. {{ping|John Yunshire}} Thanks for providing me with more information. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 23:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

:::You're welcome! John Yunshire (talk) 06:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

:::{{ping|Daniel Quinlan|John Yunshire}} Thank you both for untangling this mess! Wracking ^talk! 17:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Continued edit warring

{{u|John Yunshire}}, you are seeming involved in a slow-burn edit war that includes reverting valid information from reliable sources. Could you please explain why this is the case? We can have the conversation here or at ANI - your call. - SchroCat (talk) 16:45, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

:Can everyone please stop edit warring? This page has not been stable in months without a clear reason. I don't think anyone can actually tell what the point of contention is. King Lobclaw, what was the reason for your recent revert exactly? Keivan.f^Talk 03:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

::{{redflag}} - I'm not seeing any valid reason for the revert, as it is not an improvement to the article. It appears to me there is a concerted effort to prevent this article from being updated. And removing references and archive links from an article, as seen in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Windsor%2C_Lord_Downpatrick&diff=1222286333&oldid=1222243486 this diff], is detrimental to our core policy on verifiability. Furthermore, reverting the image back to a photo that is 16 years old is not an improvement either, when there is a more recent one from 2023, as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Windsor,_Lord_Downpatrick&oldid=1222243486 seen here]. I also agree that {{u|King Lobclaw}} needs to explain their revert. I will leave a message on their talk page. Isaidnoway (talk) 04:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

:::I know I said the post at ANI was going to be all I said on the actual content of the page, but is https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/travel-guide/a40048950/baron-downpatrick-eddy-windsor-adventure-travel/, which is used as the source for the {{tq|Downpatrick is also a partner at Wheeler-Windsor [..]}} line an article or an advertisement piece?

:::It's in the [https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/travel-guide/ travel guide] section and the website also has [https://www.townandcountrymag.com/about/a4397/advertise-online/ this page] about how brands can pay for online advertisement which includes the website itself. – 2804:F1...65:F77F (talk) 08:16, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

::::It's a reliable source and the article is written by a named journalist. If you have proof of anything else, show it, but otherwise, it stays in the article. All magazines advertise, but that does not mean all content is an advertisement. - SchroCat (talk) 08:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

:::::Fair enough. Sorry for bothering. – 2804:F14:80F7:2601:51B1:3B13:AB65:F77F (talk) 08:40, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

:::I was trying to follow the argument and reverted what I thought was against consensus. I clearly got the wrong end of the stick. Feel free to revert my revert. King Lobclaw (talk) 10:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

::::Yeah, I don't understand why this page was being made to be outdated on purpose and with no valid reason given. It's obviously better to use a newer image when one is available, plus the guy's current profession seems to be travel-related ([https://www.tatlerasia.com/lifestyle/travel/eddy-downpatrick-travel-interview see another example here]). This version of the page looks updated now, so well done, everyone involved Doctorstrange617 (talk) 14:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)