Talk:Elizabeth I

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She was not actually imprisoned. 2405:201:5007:9887:C0F3:3A2:44D0:4617 (talk) 17:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{nd}} Supported by the citation. DrKay (talk) 18:47, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

File:Queen Elizabeth I's Reprimand of an Insolent Polish Ambassador..webm Hi there, I thought you might be interested in adding a line somewhere about Elizabeth's impromptu Latin riposte in 1597 to the Polish ambassador, which was the subject of this paper {{cite journal|title=Queen Elizabeth I's Latin Reply to the Polish Ambassador |journal=The Sixteenth Century Journal |first=Janet M. |last=Green |date=2000 |volume=31|issue=4 |pages=987-1008 |doi=10.2307/2671184}} ("Elizabeth's thrilling performance was joyfully recounted for years in chronicles, in other published works,and especially in private letters"; p. 1002; quoted by James I in 1622, etc). The paper's contention therefore is that Elizabeth's riposte was at that time extremely well known within literate society at the time, is recorded in a complimentary manner in many contemporary sources, and contributed to revitalising her popularity in her last years. They say it shows her high rhetorical skills and continued command of oral Latin. It is (was?) less well known, of course, because there is less attention to Latin sources. The article appears to have been cited quite widely since (some seven times are listed at the article; [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Queen+Elizabeth+I%27s+Latin+Reply+to+the+Polish+Ambassador&btnG= Google Scholar claims 42 mentions]). There is also a video recording of the speech available at Wikisource, if that is useful, for example as an external link. Jim Killock (talk) 16:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

:No opinion about mentioning the speech? letter? in the article. The video is not really suitable for the article; it's already linked via the general link to Commons material on this topic, so I would leave it at that. -- Beland (talk) 02:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

A while ago I made an [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elizabeth_I&diff=next&oldid=1255257588 edit to the infobox] which was reversed, saying that Elizabeth's predecessors were jointly Mary I and Philip II of Spain. This was apparently deemed incorrect, but I strongly believe that Wikipedia editors' opinions should not be put above facts. The information is correct and should be put into the infobox because Philip was a legally recognised sovereign of England, even if he is not as famous as Mary...

1. Official acts of parliament by the couple were signed under their names, as can be seen in the [https://archives.parliament.uk/collections/search/page/2/?s=Mary+Philip&qa%5Bkeyword_reference_type%5D=0&qa%5Btitle%5D&qa%5Bperson%5D&qa%5Bplace%5D&qa%5Bsubject%5D&qa%5Bformat%5D&qa%5Bidentifier%5D&qa%5Bdate_from%5D&qa%5Bdate_to%5D&cbav=2&cbadvsearchquery Parliamentary Archives].
2. Coins minted during their co-reign featured both monarchs' heads.
3. Various information can be seen in this [https://www.jstor.org/stable/576346?searchText=Philip+and+Mary&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3DPhilip%2Band%2BMary%26so%3Drel&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A02011fa9ae79ca5795ad84015104eb7a&seq=4 article] that attests that Philip was King. To assuage fears of England being taken over by a foreign power, his powers were very limited, but he still held the royal title.

Not sure what else I have to say to prove that a historical king was in fact king, but I strongly believe he should be put into the 'Predecessor' section and believe reversing my edit as if it's a lie makes no real sense. Castlemore7 (talk) 14:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

:You are correct, sort of, but Philip's "reign" has been comprehensively written out or disregarded by sources at both the popular and academic levels, and we follow them. He never features in lists of English monarchs. Check for example, the "official" Royal Family" website. It was all just a horrid mistake, which the English have always been keen to forget. Johnbod (talk) 15:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

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sie liebt spaghetti bolognese 37.60.175.178 (talk) 08:15, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Aydoh8^[contribs] 08:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)