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{{Consensus| There is consensus to describe Musk as a supporter of far-right political parties per RfC and to include that he received widespread criticism for what some perceived as a Nazi salute, per RfC.}}
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| title = Elon Musk fact-checked his own Wikipedia page and requested edits including the fact he does 'zero investing'
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| date = December 23, 2019
| accessdate = December 23, 2019
| author2 = Don Reisinger
| title2 = Elon Musk Took Issue With His Wikipedia Page, So He Asked the Community to Fix It. They Did
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| date2 = December 23, 2019
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| author3 = Sissi Cao
| title3 = Elon Musk Says His Wikipedia Page Is 'Insanely' Inaccurate
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| title4 = Wikipedia locks Elon Musk's page after he 'begs' Twitter users to 'trash him' on site
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| title5 = Elon Musk Is Begging - Yes, Begging - To Be Trashed On Wikipedia. True Story
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| title6 = The Controversy Brewing on Elon Musk’s Wikipedia Page
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| author7 = Dave Lee
| title7 = Now Elon Musk is attacking Wikipedia
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| date7 = October 26, 2023
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| author8 = CT Jones
| title8 = Elon Musk Offers to Also Ruin Wikipedia
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| date8 = October 24, 2023
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| author9 = Will Bunch
| title9 = Explaining the right: Why Musk and MAGA are so mad at Wikipedia
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| date9 = December 29, 2024
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| author10 = Oliver Willis
| title10 = Forget Greenland. Trump and Musk’s real WWIII is an all-out war on the truth.
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| date10 = December 29, 2024
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| author11 = Marcie Jones
| title11 = Wikipedia Won't Let Elon Musk Fluff His Resume. Heritage Foundation Will Help By Terrorizing The Editors.
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| date11 = January 8, 2025
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| author12 = Anthony Blair
| title12 = Elon Musk lashes out at Wikipedia over 'Nazi salute' claims at Trump’s inauguration as he calls for site to be defunded
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| date12 = January 21, 2025
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| author13 = Madeline Sherratt
| title13 = Elon Musk furious after Wikipedia page calls his controversial gesture a ‘Nazi salute’
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| title14 = Elon Musk is now demanding action against Wikipedia following inauguration gesture fallout
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| date14 = January 22, 2025
| accessdate14 = January 22, 2025
| author15 = Becca Milfeld
| title15 = Musk calls for defunding of Wikipedia over description of gesture
| org15 = The Japan Times
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| date15 = January 23, 2025
| accessdate15 = January 23, 2025
| author16 = Io Dodds
| title16 = ‘He is world’s leading free speech hypocrite’: Elon Musk’s battle with Wikipedia is part of his war on truth
| org16 = The Independent
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| date16 = January 23, 2025
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| author17 = Damien Leloup
| title17 = Why Elon Musk is calling for a boycott of Wikipedia
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| date17 = January 29, 2025
| accessdate17 = January 30, 2025
| author18 = Sarah Grevy Gotfredsen
| title18 = The Right Takes Aim at Wikipedia
| org18 = Columbia Journalism Review
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| title19 = How Long Can Wikipedia Hold On?
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| title20 = Elon Musk Wants What He Can’t Have: Wikipedia
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| title21 = How Wikipedia became a political lightning rod
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Add a Trump-Elon split subject or paragraph under politics?
He has been criticizing trump all day and now he tweeted trump IS on the epstein list. He obviously isn't with trump anymore. Yesyesmrcool (talk) 19:25, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:This event definitely needs to be mentioned in the article, but I think it's best to wait and see how this plays out before calling this the "Trump-Musk split." NesserWiki (talk) 19:35, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Nomination of [[:Elon Musk–Donald Trump feud]] for deletion
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elon Musk–Donald Trump feud until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.
Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry?
The article states "He is of British and Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry." with two footnote references. The first reference does not address Pennsylvania Dutch. The second reference states it without attribution. Reading other sources suggests he is of Dutch or English South African ancestry, which I imagine would be Boer. (?) The only Pennsylvania connection I've seen is from his schooling at U. of Pa. after emigrating from South Africa via Canada. Is there any actual basis for the "Pennsylvania Dutch" part? Scryer~enwiki (talk) 21:41, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Feud in the lead
Since the article for the Musk-Trump feud has been AfD'd, should it be removed from the lead temporarily until that's closed? I support keeping the "current event" disclaimer at the top of the article as long as the other page exists, though. GrandDuchyConti 💜(talk) 22:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:Even if that dumpster fire of an article by some grace of stupidity survives deletion, the topic is not lead-worthy. Zaathras (talk) 23:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
:Lead should follow body and there is no way a due weighting of the body gives this enough space that it should be included in the lead. If a year from now there is still some feud and it makes a huge impact on his life then it is lead worthy. Czarking0 (talk) 04:43, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
:Until there is another major news cycle about his latest wizard wheeze. No it should not be in the lede. Slatersteven (talk) 10:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
:So is this terribly important feud still on? Slatersteven (talk) 14:32, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
::Not as much no. Elon Musk deleted his tweet on the Epstein files, but floated the idea of a new third party. GrandDuchyConti 💜(talk) 14:35, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
:::So if (a big if) he launched a third party that (and not this feud) should go the lede. Slatersteven (talk) 14:39, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
::::I agree GrandDuchyConti 💜(talk) 14:45, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
:Per Czarking0, lacks due weight for an such a summary level article with multiple child articles. At Views of Elon Musk there is also a one sentence summary, meaning at this parent article very little is also due if any, nowhere near the lead. CNC (talk) 14:44, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
Minor typo
Paragraph 3, first mention of Trump: " In January 2025, he was appointed head of Trump's newly created DOGE." Please change "Trump" to either "President Donald Trump" or just "Donald Trump," because it's the first mention of him in this article. I'm not saying this out of respect for TACO, just noting it should be gramatically correct. TeamEquestria (talk) 13:54, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Infobox image
Yesterday someone {{diff2|1294217926|changed the infobox image}} to one where Musk has a black eye. I don't think we need to debate this one, but when it was reverted the image was changed. It was reverted by me {{diff2|1294243351|and another person}} to an image that was used a day ago, but two hours ago the image {{diff2|1294288741|was changed again}} to an older image that we were using not too long ago. I don't want to edit war so I'm not going to touch it, but which image should we be using? What was the consensus before this happened? ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
:Also :Template:Elon Musk series now has a different image than the one used in this article. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:38, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
::Someone has just re-added the black eye image to :Template:Elon Musk series. Also :Template:Elon Musk has a different image to the rest. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)