Talk:Empath#Requested move 2 June 2025

{{Template:Did you know nominations/Empath}}

The article says:

{{Blockquote|text=They [neuroscientists] suggest that, on average, people who describe themselves as empaths have a greater ability to empathize than other people, and that this ability may be the result of a neurological difference, particularly in the responsiveness of mirror neurons."}}

The citations provided talk about there being variability in the capacity of humans to empathize with others but they do not appear to suggest that self-identified empaths in particular have a greater ability to empathize with other people. 143.159.85.9 (talk) 11:02, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

"The word and concept first appeared in a 1956 science fiction novel called The Empath by Scottish author JT McIntosh. He was making a play on the word telepath." Google said. No other independent verification. 74.127.201.54 (talk) 16:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

I am confused, is this a real scientific term people throw about or is the idea that people can be hyper-empathetic pseudoscience? Drocj (talk) 23:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

:@Drocj: No medical academic literature exists. Some social scientists use it to talk about people self-applying the term, and some controversial psychologists use it this way too. Nevertheless, I consider its main use to be the paranormal use. When I wrote article, I was going for NPOV, however. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 05:50, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

{{requested move/dated|Empath (parapsychology)}}

:Empath → {{no redirect|Empath (parapsychology)}} – The article is about the parapsychological concept of an "empath", and not about a person who feels empathy. Therefore distinguishing information is necessary. There are two more articles called "Empath", as well: Empath (character) and Empath (album), so if the move is successful the Empath article can become a disambiguation page. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 05:48, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:I support a move to Empath (Parapsychology) but mainly to make clear that the topic is fringe. That could also be acheived on this page with some rewriting, which I'm not sure I could quite pull off. Ideally, Wikipedia's coverage of things should be in proportion to the coverage it receives in reliable sources, and so I wonder what use this article really has. Aspets (talk) 08:54, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

::I also support this proposed move. Simonm223 (talk) 11:52, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

:Based on page views alone, there is a strong argument that disambiguation is unnessecary as this page clearly meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. However, given there are several other articles for subjects called Empath, I would support moving this article to the proposed namespace. There is already an existing disambiguation page for "Empath", so no need to create another! Dfadden (talk) 13:01, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. No policy-based rationale is provided and I find no evidence that disambiguation is needed here. I'm unable to pull up Pageviews for Empath and [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2025-01-01&end=2025-06-01&pages=Empath_(parapsychology) the output] for Empath (parapsychology) does not seem correct—I think this has something to do with the recent moves? The nom and other editors support the move for the purpose of labeling the domain of this topic. Dfadden asserts that {{tq|there is a strong argument that disambiguation is unnessecary as this page clearly meets WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.}} I'm not aware of any policy or precedent for doing this {{em|when disambiguation is not otherwise necessary}}. The article could be improved, but it does pretty clearly describe the subject as primarily outside the realm of (regular) psychology. The title and article are already distinguished from empathy by the distinct spelling. Perhaps adding {{Distinguish|Empath}} to the top would serve readers. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 21:31, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose{{snd}}this is the primary topic for the term "empath", so no disambiguation is required. I understand that this needs to be distinguished from the broader concept of empathy, but that's a job for the short description, hatnotes, and lead section, not the article title. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
• :Yes, would you be so kind as to help in making those necessary changes? Aspets (talk) 20:35, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
• Oppose Clear primary topic. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 15:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC)