Talk:European Union#Something wrong with the map

The editor who wrote that "...as of 2025, every country except Romania is a democracy.." should be banned!

Romania is a democracy. Even though the 2024 presidential elections are problematic, we are not making politics here. To say Romania it is not a democracy, or Hungary (because they have the same leader over a decade) it is politics! Fimih2 (talk) 02:44, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

:That statement is not the opinion of an editor, it is reporting the Economist Democracy Index, which records Romania has having a "hybrid regime" (unlike Hungary, which (it says) has a "flawed democracy"). The Economist Group is a WP:reliable source. I doubt that the hacked presidential election was a critical factor in their assessment. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:18, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

::We have many organizations monitoring democracy ... for example in democracymatrix (Romania has a "deficient democracy" as USA). Freedom in the world, V-Dem (where Hungary is very close to a dictatorship), Bertelsman, GSDI, DPI, etc. The description in this article it's unfortunate, not malicious! Fimih2 (talk) 02:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Can you provide more details of the other assessments? Relevant webpages if possible, whatever you can collect that would enable verification. That way we can have a more balanced view. I agree that it looks very odd to pick out Romania as deficient when Hungary is the rather more obvious exception. IMO, its current prominence in the lead is contrary to Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and I will take it out{{snd}} but others may disagree and reinstate it. So the sooner you provide the other assessments the better, please. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:20, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

::::Even without NPOV, there's simple WP:DUE and WP:LEAD issues. Why are those comparative stats there? This is an article about the EU, not its member states, and that information doesn't even seem like it was important enough to make the body. The odd Bulgaria thing should be removed too. CMD (talk) 14:30, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::I agree with your conclusion, except that the EU is its member states: this article is about the things they do as a union. So some broad description is due but not getting bogged down in details that are national competencies. I'll take out the snippet about Bulgaria now. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

The map of EU territory shows e.g. French Guiana (an overseas French department) as part of the EU but not Greenland (one of three territories of the Kingdom of Denmark). This is in spite of the fact that the Greenland wiki states: "Greenland is one of the Overseas Countries and Territories of the European Union and is part of the Council of Europe." 50.20.245.229 (talk) 17:25, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

::Please read Withdrawal of Greenland from the European Communities. Dasomm (talk) 10:56, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

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Change "Croatia [was admitted to the EU] in 2023" to "Croatia in 2013" in the first paragraph of the "Treaty of Lisbon and Brexit (2004-present)" subsection of the History section. Source: 2 paragraphs later the article reads "In 2013, Croatia became the 28th EU member", and this year is accurate. 2600:1702:4B8D:B000:FD5B:C0A0:FCBD:9A5B (talk) 07:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:It's about the euro. Barjimoa (talk) 11:14, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{not done}}: "Croatia in 2023" refers to "adopted the euro". CMD (talk) 07:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

What's the purpose of explaining the etymology of Europe? It has relevance on the page about Europe, but none here. 75.168.206.29 (talk) 01:06, 12 June 2025 (UTC)