Talk:Flat Earth#Merger Proposal: Shape of the Earth

early muslim scholars were the defenders of spherical earth concept.

Abu Rayhan al-Biruni (AD 973–1048)The 11th century Persian mathematician used simple trigonometric results to estimate the radius and circumference of the Earth. His estimate has been quoted as 6,340 km, which is within 1% of the mean radius of 6,371 km. 2001:6A8:5E0:926:882B:A6EF:199E:24D8 (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

:Any reliable source that would back up your claim? A09|(talk) 12:14, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

::the article mentioned that early muslims believed earth was flat

::okay according to Ibn Al-Munadi born in 869AD

::All muslims schoolers believe in spherical earth

::Majmu' Fatawa - Ibn Taymiyyah vol 25 p195 that all muslim schoolers believe that earth is spehrical

::also Ibn Al Munadi is from the Hanbali school who doesnt accept Greek cosmology or anything from them 46.248.207.62 (talk) 23:37, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

:The article already states, several times, that some Muslim scholars accepted the spherical model starting in the 9th century, so why are you going on about “fake facts”? Strebe (talk) 22:04, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

::"starting in the 9th century,"

::Which means before 9th century they believed Earth is flar which isnt true

::Ibn Taymiyya

::Ali b. Ahmad Ibn Hazm

::Ibn Al Munadi

::mentioned that all muslim schoolers believe in spherical Earth and while this is debatable

::it means that alot of them believe in that before the 9 century 46.248.207.62 (talk) 23:42, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

:::The statement is sourced. Does the source say something different? Ramos1990 (talk) 00:26, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

:::None of the people you list precede the 9th century, assuming that your “Munadi” is actually “Muradi” and that the scholars I looked up are the same ones you are talking about. Strebe (talk) 02:23, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

{{Ping|Strebe}} Not objecting to your revert because I don't feel strongly about it (Earth, the Earth, same thing), but FYI this entire article including the first sentence says "the Earth". Yue🌙 02:21, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Like why is it so short 2600:480A:4A51:9300:8DEB:5AE4:90B:AAA7 (talk) 20:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

:Feel free to contibute if you have sources. Ramos1990 (talk) 23:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

The second sentence of this article says {{bq|Many ancient cultures, notably in the ancient Near East [emphasis added], subscribed to a flat-Earth cosmography.}}

Why "notably in the ancient Near East"? What's special about the ancient Near East, specifically? The article contains sections on Greece, Northern Europe, East Asia, and South Asia. 168.92.254.163 (talk) 01:51, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

The knowledge that the Earth is a globe predates modern science, so isn't it anachronistic to say that historical flat earth beliefs were scientifically disproven? An example of a cosmological model that was disproven/falsified/outmoded/superseded/whatever by later scientific developments would be geocentrism—first by Copernicam heliocentrism and ultimately by modern relativistic cosmology. The flat Earth, on the other hand, was never scientifically relevant in the first place. Calling it "an archaic conception of the shape of the Earth" is sufficient. 98.243.254.38 (talk) 17:38, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:I would say both are true. Just because knowledge of Earth’s sphericity antedates modern science does not thereby mean that belief in a flat earth among modern people has not been disproven by science. Strebe (talk) 17:51, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:Considering the number of editors that have posted here that the flat Earth model may have credence; it's useful to state that it is scientifically disproven. O3000, Ret. (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::I am afraid flat earth is not a model that is used in scientific research at all today. Ramos1990 (talk) 02:32, 18 June 2025 (UTC)