Talk:Forced conversion

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One is an article by 'moderndiplomacy.eu'. You fail to show how this is an unreliable source (which you claim). I have checked and It's not listed as such. The unreliablebility, hence, is an opnion. Poorly explained.

The other an opinion piece by a respected academic in the field, not some pundit with an opinion.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/china-islam-mental-illness-cured-181127135358356.html

Simply stating "opinion piece" and "unreliable" and leaving it at that qualifies as "poorly explained. Kleuske (talk) 10:08, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

:Modern diplomacy has been discussed a few times at WP:RSN, and the discussion has never ruled in its favour as far as I can tell. Of the key points noted is that it is not a news source, and does not claim to be one, but is an advocacy platform that publishes opinions, often fairly dubious ones. So that leaves us with opinion pieces from two authors, neither of whom are obviously by subject matter experts either generally, by any specific metric, or specifically with respect to this subject - not that I can see. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:40, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

user 220.255.242.109 added new content that lack neutrality [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Forced_conversion&diff=1206702615&oldid=1200653947], with strong POV language, some examples of his POV new content:

{{blockquote| Indian-origin religions, such as Hinduism,[40] Buddhism,[41] Jainism[42] and Sikhism.[43] In this aspect, Indian religions are very different from the foreign-origin proselytising religions, specially Islam and Christianity which have core tenents (like Dawah and Christian missions)[44] requiring followers to persecute[45] and actively convert[46][47][48][49] others including with the use of violent jihad,[50][51][52][53][54][55] Islamic invasions, Christian colonisations,[56][57][58] and inquisitions to earn spiritual merit. Both Islam and Christianity have very long history of violent forced conversions[59][60] and genocide[61] of people belonging to the Indian-origin religions. In some regions, almost all of a colony's population was forcibly turned away from its traditional belief systems and forcibly turned towards the Christian faith, which colonizers used as a justification for their extermination of adherents of other faiths, their enslavement of natives, and their exploitation of lands and seas.[61][62][63][64][65]}}

Considering Christianity and Islam as foreign religions in India, is a Hindu nationalist claim. The history of Christianity in India goes back to the early times of Christianity, and the history of Islam in India goes back 1,400 years, and both Indian Muslims and Christians are native to India. Considering their faiths as foreign religions is a Hindu nationalist claim. Also the claims that both Islam and Christianity have a "core tenents that requiring it's followers to persecute and commit genocide" is POV.

I do not deny here that throughout history there have been acts of violence and persecution by Christian or Islamic authorities (or any of them in general) against Hindus, but the wording of the above sentence and the recently added paragraphs are not neutral. 2.55.19.137 (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

:Sorry, you're right. I was getting confused. This is absolutely POV nonsense and doesn't belong in the article. Thanks and apologies, Dāsānudāsa (talk) 12:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

::Thank you. 2.55.19.137 (talk) 12:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

That's not a Hindu nationalist claim, Christians persecuted Jews in India under the Goa inquisition and to convert heathens. Including forcibly amputating Hindus and Muslims in front of their families to demand conversions of entire families for 250 years. Christian religious groups in the US share propaganda videos arguing Hindus are devil worshippers and that Muslims worship Satan since at least the 1990s. Also, what is a Hindu Nationalist? 2603:7081:2200:433C:4525:9987:72BB:C17B (talk) 07:14, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

::"forcibly amputating Hindus and Muslims in front of their families to demand conversions" This is typical Christian ethics. How do you think they converted most of Europe to their violent cult? Dimadick (talk) 08:36, 13 June 2025 (UTC)