Talk:Ganesha#ownership

In Tamil Nadu people perform squats while holding their ears as a ritual to worship Ganesha and we call it toppukaranam. Can this be mentioned in the article too please? 106.222.220.28 (talk) 04:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi folks, more than one place in this article talks about Ganesha in the 2nd century, but there is also this bit in the "possible influences" section:

''Thapan's book on the development of Ganesha devotes a chapter to speculations about the role elephants had in early India but concludes that "although by the second century CE the elephant-headed form exists it cannot be presumed to represent . There is no evidence of a deity by this name having an elephant or elephant-headed form at this early stage. had yet to make his debut."

Since this doesn't represent the scholarly consensus on the history of Ganesha, I propose deleting it. Thoughts? Thanks, Hemmingweigh (talk) 13:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

What is Svānandaloka, I have never heard of it as a loka which Ganesha resides 2601:600:8D00:D230:693B:682A:3A1C:FAD5 (talk) 00:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I think the main image should be changed to an picture that looks more like a more common representation of Ganesha, like [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Dagdushet_Halwai_Ganpati_2005.jpg the Dagdushetha Halwai Mandir murti] or [https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lalbaugh_Ganesha.jpg the Lalbaugcha Raja].

IndianEmperor7 (talk) 23:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello,i just removed the image and description of ghana hindus from the aforementioned topic because it seemed really unfit there,as the topic was made to show the spread of Ganesh image and worship during the ancient and medieval era in Asia.His worship in Ghana is a completely unrelated and modern phenomenon.Also,the image was puted there in a kinda messy way so it was visually polluting the topic.Just to clarify it 187.183.203.189 (talk) 22:21, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense Why shouldn't the image be replaced? The photo of Lalbaugcha Raja I put is a more typical representation of Ganesha.

KnowDeath (talk) 09:27, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for your patience. From what I understand, for such religious figures in general, we tend to prefer older depictions—not because they're older, but in that they tend to represent more branches of the tradition, as it were. Reinforcing this, the lead images in featured articles tend to be chosen for good reasons strongly rooted in site policies. I'll ping @Abecedare, who participated in selecting this image for its first appearance on the article back in 2007 (!). Remsense ‥ 论 22:57, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

::I think using older images from cave temple complexes such as https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:6th_century_Ganesha_Badami_Caves.jpg or https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lord_Ganesha_at_cave_-15_Ellora.jpg might be better, then. Also, the articles for Shiva and Kartikeya use much more recent depictions.

::KnowDeath (talk) 23:37, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

:::It doesn't matter in and of itself what other articles have or don't have, cf. WP:OTHERCONTENT. Remsense ‥ 论 23:39, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

:To add to what Ramsense said: two other factors that come into play are encyclopedic value (attested by sources) and image quality. The current lede image is literally [https://www.museumsofindia.gov.in/repository/record/nat_del-62-1768-43470 a museum quality painting] whose iconography has been commented upon in detail in a [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Gaṇeśa_the_Enchanter_of_the_Three_Wor/H5DjAAAAMAAJ?hl=en scholarly work on exactly that topic] and the image is of sufficiently high quality. Note also that the article already contains, as it should, other images of contemporary idols of the deity in the Worship and festivals section although frankly those can be improved upon in both framing and photographic quality. The article already includes an image of the Badami cave Ganesha too. Abecedare (talk) 23:51, 11 March 2025 (UTC)