Talk:Giles Corey

I know sometimes figures like these can be mentioned frequently... but he is mentioned several times by name in {{cite book |title=At the Edge of the Universe |author=Shaun David Hutchinson |date=2017 |publisher=Simon Pulse|ref=none}} in ways that relate to plot/themes.

I would think such a section about cultural mentions would differ from the current Legacy section. We may find mentions or allegories in popular movies, etc., that would be interesting. Thoughts? = paul2520 (talk) 14:01, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

:I agree; there's a moderately well-received music project under the name Giles Corey that's gotten some press from Pitchfork, The Needle Drop, Vice, etc. Not a huge note, but probably worth a short mention.24.211.137.194 (talk) 02:40, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

::Wouldn't Hutchinson come under §5.1 Literature? @24.211.137.194 – do you have a link to the project or (better) a review? Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:03, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

:::Another issue to consider is that we should be letting reliable, third-party sources call out these references. It's not enough for a movie or band to mention Giles Corey. They're primary sources, after all. It becomes noteworthy when third-party sources highlight it. See MOS:POPCULT for more. Woodroar (talk) 14:51, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

::::I wouldn't say I have a specific source, though Giles Corey has its own wiki page with about 20 sources, though some are closer to primary. I'd say naming an indie band popular enough to justify a wiki pagehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giles_Corey_(band) is notable enough, given that a lot of the references are from pretty reputable sources (ie., sputnikmusic, wired, independent.) It's clearly not a local dude in his basement and might be of interest to people looking at this page.24.211.137.194 (talk) 07:56, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

:::::Keep in mind that Wikipedia is based on what reliable, third-party sources say and not our own research or opinions. Yes, Giles Corey (band) meets our notability requirements for bands, but that doesn't mean we can then say whatever we want about it. As our policy WP:NOT says, "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information" and that "[t]o provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources". So we'd really need reliable, third-party sources to make that connection for us to mention it in this article. Woodroar (talk) 14:24, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

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